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<p>Dean:<br>
My first battery impact wrench was a 28V Milwaukee 15 years
ago.. The batteries lasted less than 2 years. replacements were
a small fortune when I priced them and here were no aftermarket.
I bought one of those Dewalt 18V deals with the 1/2 impact and the
1/2 hammer drill and a free Sawzall with batteries and charger.
Later I added the 3/8 impact, then the Metal cutting circular saw,
and later the handiest of all the 4-1/2 in grinder. I later found
a wood cutting circular saw, Then along came the 20v to 18v
adapters. Last of all I found the Dewalt high torque Impact with
over 1000 ft lbs of torque in 20V for less than $300, and a Dewalt
20V grease gun with 10,000 PSI. I lusted after Milwaukee back
during my early years and always tried to get them used at
auctions and garage sales. The last 20 years of Milwaukee tools I
find are overpriced and over hyped. I do have a cordless
Milwaukee Dremel tool and soldering Iron. <br>
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<p>I bought a couple of aftermarket 28V batteries for the old
Milwaukee impact, and have yet to use it. I reach for my Dewalt
ones. <br>
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<p>Cecil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/14/2021 2:47 AM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The few battery operated devices that I
have are slowly being upgrade to lithium batteries. They have
been the east troublesome. Don’t seem to develop a reduction
in charging capability over time and are much quicker to
charge. I have been reluctant to switch over to battery
powered devices completely but with the advent of Lithium Ion
the hand writing is on the wall. There is one particular
hand held device that I covet all the time and only the $400
cost holds me back. It would be nice to own but $400 plus…. I
just can’t seem to get my credit card out yet. It is a Battery
Powered impact wrench made by Milwaukee that has 1400 ft lbs.
of reverse nut breaking force. Just think how many bigger
bolts I could twist off with that. But in my limited
experience my current IR air driven impact wrench has twisted
off way less bolts than my breaker bar has. I don’t remember
what that reverse torque spec is right now. I can set the
level of torque on the tightening side but not on the reverse
side. I think the shocking of the impact wrench reduces damage
considerably.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dean VP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">..Winston Churchill...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a> <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Bill Brueck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"><at@lists.antique-tractor.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a
piece of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve had excellent results by having
battery packs rebuilt. The local franchise for consumer
batteries and such was Batteries Plus, I think they changed
the name to Batteries and Bulbs or something like that. Just
leave it and pick it up a couple of days later with new
batteries inside. Half or less of the cost of new batteries.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sometimes the pack is constructed such that
it can’t be taken apart and they can’t do those.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They also sell lawn mower batteries but the
price is quite a bit higher than the same battery at the local
farm supply franchise…Fleet Farm in my neck of the woods, but
I know that’s regional.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve also bought some of the cheap
aftermarket batteries on eBay. These have not been
satisfactory. If they work at all, they haven’t lasted long.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">B²<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bill Brueck<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Pine Island, MN USA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> AT <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Loomis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece
of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe most if not all newer LI tool
battery chargers limit the amount of 'charging' they do to
prevent over charging, battery degradation, etc. People get
PO'ed when they have to drop a hun and a half on a battery.
Granted they still go bad, but not like the Mikcheepas of
old. I have a fair amount of Milwaukee 28V tools that I
still use today. I've had to replace two batteries and at
pushing $200 a pop I may not get anymore. I'm too old to
invest in an entire stable of new 12, 18, or whatever volt
tools. Mine serve their purpose. However if I were 20 years
younger then I would definitely invest in new, red tools. We
have a few at work that are really nice. That 18V transfer
pump is terrific. These days if I need something I'm
probably going to get pneumatic or corded. They are way less
money as a general rule. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:23 PM <a
href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">szabelski@wildblue.net</a> <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">No. A battery tender doesn’t’t act like
a battery charger. A battery charger will do one of two
things, depending on how it’s designed. One will put out a
constant voltage which isn’t the best thing for a battery
since you can over charge the battery if left on too long.
The other will charge the battery and when it’s near full
charge, will drop down to a trickle charge to top off the
battery. But again you shouldn’t leave it on indefinitely.<br>
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On the other, hand a battery tender will automatically
shut off when it senses that the battery is fully charged.<br>
<br>
Carl<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com"
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Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:20:54 -0400 (EDT)<br>
Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of
cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power<br>
<br>
Carl, is the same true for a battery tender? I leave all
my machinery<br>
plugged into them all winter long.<br>
<br>
Mike M<br>
<br>
On 6/13/2021 6:43 PM, <a
href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">szabelski@wildblue.net</a> wrote:<br>
> Maintaining batteries can be a hassle. At some point
they will start to not take a full charge and need to be
replaced. They build up internal “shorts” (part of their
internal chemical process) from normal use that start to
diminish their ability to be recharged. You can go on
YouTube and find videos on how to reverse change them
using a welder or other high current source. I’ve done it
a few times with some success. Also you shouldn’t plug a
battery into a charger and let it sit there forever, you
wind up sorta putting a reverse charge on the battery and
it won’t fully charge anymore. You shouldn’t drain a
battery down to nothing either, it also degrades the
battery and the charger more than likely doesn’t have the
ability to fully resurrect a totally dead battery. My
latest drill will stop running at a point where the
battery is still partially charged. If I have one more
screw to put in, it will work for a few more turns with
each trigger pull, but will not run continuously. You can
also go on YouTube and find videos that will show you how
to rebuild a battery using a set of equivalent batteries.
Takes some soldering and knowledge of wiring them
correctly.<br>
><br>
> Carl<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: STEVE ALLEN <<a
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> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:19:22 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece
of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query!<br>
><br>
> As I was helping my son do some finishing work on a
bathroom remodel today, another question occurred to me:
do the batteries on trimmers and such hold a charge?<br>
><br>
> Between my son and me, we have three or four
battery-powered drills/drivers. None is commercial grade,
but none was cheap, either. But none of the batteries
ever holds a charge (so my son resorted to a corded
drill).<br>
><br>
> If I have an opportunity to work, I can't first plug
the charger in for four hours (or more) to get a working
battery before getting started: I need to take advantage
of my opportunities. With a gas trimmer, I go out, crank
it, and go to work. Will I be able to do that with a
battery-powered one?<br>
><br>
> The "original" Steve Allen<br>
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