[AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake..... Wrong
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Sun Jun 6 17:59:28 PDT 2021
I have a Husqvarna chain saw that was having carb issues. As was earlier
stated, I could buy a new one for less than a rebuild kit. Bolted in on
and didn't even have to adjust it, ran like a top.
Mike M
On 6/6/2021 8:34 PM, k7jdj at aol.com wrote:
> I've had good luck with the cheap replacement carburetors. I have a
> couple of old school small engine repair books that go into good
> detail on small engine carbs. I also discovered that fuel lines are
> often the problem, both between the tank and carb and in the tank.
> Recently had a section of hose in my Stihl weed eater that was soft
> and collapsing causing fuel starvation. Took a while to locate that.
> I don't buy special gas but don't leave gas in any of the 2 cycle
> stuff unless I'm going to be using frequently.
>
> Gary
>
> Renton, WA.
>
>
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> From: Henry Miller <hank at millerfarm.com>
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> Sent: Sun, Jun 6, 2021 3:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake..... Wrong
>
> I feel the same way Dave, I have the DeWalt 60volt chainsaw and
> trimmer and I wouldn't go back to gasoline. Modern batteries are
> amazing. 20 years ago they were all under powered, but now the only
> reason to go back to gas is if the job is big enough to drain all your
> batteries. If you own a home gas powered lawn tools are antique
> collectables. The only reason pros can't give up gasoline yet is
> nobody has a good solution to the dead battery problem. Even then for
> the smaller stuff they should be thinking hard about trying to figure
> out how to remember to plug things in every night.
>
> Just remember when buying battery operated tools the battery is the
> expensive part so choose a tool line/brand to get the best use out of
> the fewest batteries you can get by with. There are several good
> brands of tools that have been around for years, none of them pay me
> to push their brand so I'll just recommend them all.
>
> --
> Henry Miller
> hank at millerfarm.com <mailto:hank%40millerfarm.com>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, at 10:41, Dave Maynard wrote:
>> Hi guys. I'm pretty impressed with some electric things I've gotten.
>> I bought a 2 for deal of 60v Dewalt chainsaw and leaf blower. Came
>> with battery and charger for around $500. I then bought 2 more
>> batteries for about $240. Since bought the string trimmer to match.
>> Push the button and go! I've always used larger McCullough chainsaws,
>> but now looking at 70 this fall...
>> The chainsaw, I wear out before the battery...lol. And the adaptive
>> charger will charge my 12 and 20v batteries fast as well. They said I
>> can cut 70 pressure treated 6 x 6 cuts on a battery, did the math,
>> that's 10 cuts on 16" diameter logs. Cut 30 cuts on 3 batteries and
>> last on had a little left, pretty accurate I'd say. For handiness
>> around the farm for trimming and the trees that always fall from the
>> woods into the field it's perfect. And for taking on trails with four
>> wheelers, golf cart and or snowmobile its perfect, dont have to take
>> gas and keep staring and shutting off. Just get out, squeeze the
>> trigger, put it back and drive on to the next. Still use the gas ones
>> for major jobs, but would never be without the battery ones.
>> The adaptive batteries will operate any of the 20v items and last a
>> long time. I have a 20v fan in my shop that seems like I'm running
>> all the time. Just charged the battery last night first time in a month!
>> Good luck in your endeavors and have fun out there doing all the
>> things you love!
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 11:11 AM Kenneth Gene Waugh
>> <kgwaugh0943 at gmail.com <mailto:kgwaugh0943 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Spencer, I am in the same camp as you---my first goal was to
>> eliminate what 2 cycles I had---blower and trimmer--and have now
>> gone even a bit further, with EGO battery operated tools. Love em!
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 10:01 AM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com
>> <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>>
>> To all the folks specifically mentioning weedeaters, hedge
>> trimmers, and other small gas engines woes: go electric. You
>> will never go back.
>>
>> So it’s starts with my wife - who insists on doing some of
>> the weed eating around the farm(a good thing cause I hate
>> weed-eating) - not having the independence to weed-eat on her
>> own. I always had to start the weed eater for her. I could
>> start it fine but she always seem to have trouble.
>>
>> So I sold it for 50 bucks and bought the Makita Electric. I
>> am absolutely flabbergasted that I didn’t think to make the
>> switch years ago. I love it. I bought the package on
>> Amazon that includes the nice charger and an extra set of
>> batteries. Wasn’t particularly cheap but two sets of
>> batteries provides way more than enough power to cross
>> anyone’s weed-eating stamina/boredom threshold.
>>
>> I can’t decide what the biggest benefit is. No smoke? Easy
>> start? Quiet? No mixing fuel? Absolutely anyone can run it?
>>
>> I’ll never go back to gas yard tools. Only chainsaws and
>> bigger stay gas. Everything else is, or will be, electric.
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Cecil Bearden
>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just FYI If you need small engine parts here is a site I
>> use a lot
>> >
>> > https://www.everestpartssupplies.com/
>> >
>> > ...Cecil
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 6/6/2021 6:28 AM, John Hall wrote:
>> >> Welcome to modern small engines--sometimes you just can't
>> fix them.
>> >>
>> >> My mother-in-laws 2 year old Briggs push mower wouldn't
>> crank on its own. I replaced the primer bulb--that's about
>> all you can do to it. Spray some starting fluid in it and it
>> cranks and runs fine. Replacement carbs are aftermarket and
>> cheap, but I don't really trust them. Some online research
>> indicates some guys use 2 mounting gaskets, wonder if there
>> is an air leak due to warped plastic parts? I may try this,
>> otherwise its headed to the dump as none of us need a push mower.
>> >>
>> >> Got a 25 year old weed trimmer that I've had the carb
>> apart 5-6 times. About ready to buy a cheap replacement carb
>> (thats all you can get). I've replaced all the usual
>> suspects, cleaned the carb as best as I can , used OEM parts.
>> >> What happens now is it will try to run with the choke
>> completely on until it completely floods the crankase. Long
>> story short the trimmer was given to me by a mechanic that
>> told the owner it needed a new carb years ago. Its a high
>> hour machine but has good compression, and has not been
>> abused---just used a LOT. I did find the ignition kill wire
>> would shock you--so that has now been disconnected as I'm
>> sure that wasn't helping. This has really turned into pure
>> stubborness to make this thing run again.
>> >>
>> >> I did manage to tear apart my hedge trimmer carb and get
>> out all the debris from the primer bulb (it was literally
>> coming apart, never seen that before) and it now runs better
>> than it has in a couple years.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So 1 for 3--if this was baseball not a bad batting average!!!!
>> >>
>> >> John Hall
>> >>
>> >>> On 6/5/2021 8:38 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>> >>> You ATIS members need a good laugh once in a while. This
>> should help provide that at my expense. ,
>> >>>
>> >>> One of my Grandsons just purchased his first house which
>> has a small grass lawn with it. Small enough lawn a
>> self-propelled 20 - 22" push mower would be just fine. Since
>> he is moving out of an apartment he would need to buy a
>> mower. I volunteered to give him one of mine that I have
>> out in the barn that haven't been run for a while. Don't even
>> remember now when or where I got this one, it was probably
>> cheap at some garage sale or auction and is a Toro Model
>> 20216. Probably 20" to 22" (haven't measured) deck with a 4HP
>> Briggs motor and it can be self-propelled with 3 forward
>> gears .Everything worked fine on it when I used it last
>> probably several years ago (ran when parked) and my only two
>> complaints about it were the 4HP made it underpowered and the
>> aluminum deck was pretty brittle and has been welded once. I
>> have been blessed with a wealth of rocks on my yard. I
>> noticed the deck now has a couple more cracks but the mower
>> is useable as is all I have to do is get it running.
>> >>>
>> >>> I cleaned everything up, cleaned the spark plug, changed
>> oil and put in new gas. I don't have a manual for the mower
>> and the only way I could figure out how to get the old oil
>> out was to either pump it out or lay it on its side and drain
>> it out the fill tube. . Very dumb and very owner unfriendly.
>> . Anyway tried to start it. Not even a pop. Choke full
>> on. Tried ether. Yep, I could get it to run for a second or
>> two but obviously not getting gas to the cylinder. Check gas
>> line, check bowl, yep getting gas to the carburetor. Sum
>> Ting Wong with the carburetor.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now mistakenly I think I know what I'm doing relative to
>> carburetors with several successful Antique Tractor and
>> Garden Tractor carburetor rebuilds under my belt but it has
>> been a long time since I have worked on a Lawn Mower
>> Carburetor. But needing to be humbled a bit I guess I have
>> forgotten a key detail about Briggs carburetor's. I pulled
>> the carb, removed the bowl and found a sandy white substance
>> (dirt?) in the bowl and also in the needle and seat well.
>> Not typical of what I have seen in carbs in the past. But
>> continue to disassemble removing the float and needle. Don't
>> see a removable seat and disassemble the rest of the carb.
>> Run small wires through any opening I can find and make sure
>> they are clean and blow air through any passage I can find.
>> One thing that happened worried me. I had the air hose nozzle
>> on the gas intake pipe and a little pop occurred and
>> something hit me in the face. My observation was that it had
>> come out of the bottom where the needle seats.. Hmmmm
>> .............must have been plugged right there. 😊 Couldn't
>> find what came out. I bet the carburetor will work now.
>> Operator now in full idiot mode!😊
>> >>>
>> >>> Moving on, soaked the carburetor in Pine Sol overnight
>> and this morning cleaned it with fresh water. Carburetor
>> looks like new. Man.... I am really good. Hmm, the bowl
>> gasket has expanded in diameter in the pine sol. That is not
>> good. But start reassembling the carburetor and put the float
>> and needle in place and it is obvious the needle is dropping
>> too far down and not seating properly. Aha, that is what
>> must have blown out and hit me in the face. Hummmmm how do
>> you blow out a brass seat? Now I'm confused. Get on the
>> internet and watch a video of an overhaul of this type of
>> lawn mower carburetor. Gets to the part about removing the
>> needle and seat. " An easy way to get the little rubber
>> needle seat out is to blow air into the gas inlet of the
>> carburetor" Been there, done that. Yep, I can completely
>> verify that works very well but I didn't know it when I did
>> it. @#$%^&*() Now I sure as hell know what hit me in the
>> face. I can't find that little sucker. So... $9 gets me a
>> carburetor overhaul kit over night from Amazon. Needed a
>> new bowl gasket too. Isn't it amazing how the problem and
>> solution can hit you right in the face???
>> >>>
>> >>> In searching for the right carburetor kit I noticed I
>> could buy a whole new carburetor for $10.49. But I have been
>> down that road before and I was not pleased with what I
>> received. So I'm staying with the OEM Carburetor. One day
>> delivery on the parts.
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW, I'm not very sure this mower is even worth the $9
>> carburetor repair kit. But.... I am going to beat this
>> sucker into submission. This is the way us old folks turn
>> one hour jobs into a full day's entertainment.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dean V
>> >>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>> >>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
>> ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
>> equal sharing of misery."
>> >>> ..Winston Churchill...
>> >>>
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