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I have a Husqvarna chain saw that was having carb issues. As was
earlier stated, I could buy a new one for less than a rebuild kit.
Bolted in on and didn't even have to adjust it, ran like a top.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/6/2021 8:34 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k7jdj@aol.com">k7jdj@aol.com</a>
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<div> <font size="2">I've had good luck with the cheap
replacement carburetors. I have a couple of old school
small engine repair books that go into good detail on small
engine carbs. I also discovered that fuel lines are often
the problem, both between the tank and carb and in the
tank. Recently had a section of hose in my Stihl weed eater
that was soft and collapsing causing fuel starvation. Took
a while to locate that. I don't buy special gas but don't
leave gas in any of the 2 cycle stuff unless I'm going to be
using frequently. <br>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">I feel the same way
Dave, I have the DeWalt 60volt chainsaw and trimmer
and I wouldn't go back to gasoline. Modern batteries
are amazing. 20 years ago they were all under
powered, but now the only reason to go back to gas is
if the job is big enough to drain all your batteries.
If you own a home gas powered lawn tools are antique
collectables. The only reason pros can't give up
gasoline yet is nobody has a good solution to the dead
battery problem. Even then for the smaller stuff they
should be thinking hard about trying to figure out how
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Just remember when
buying battery operated tools the battery is the
expensive part so choose a tool line/brand to get the
best use out of the fewest batteries you can get by
with. There are several good brands of tools that
have been around for years, none of them pay me to
push their brand so I'll just recommend them all.<br
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<div>Hi guys. I'm pretty impressed with some
electric things I've gotten. I bought a 2 for
deal of 60v Dewalt chainsaw and leaf blower.
Came with battery and charger for around $500. I
then bought 2 more batteries for about $240.
Since bought the string trimmer to match. Push
the button and go! I've always used larger
McCullough chainsaws, but now looking at 70 this
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<div>The chainsaw, I wear out before the
battery...lol. And the adaptive charger will
charge my 12 and 20v batteries fast as well.
They said I can cut 70 pressure treated 6 x 6
cuts on a battery, did the math, that's 10 cuts
on 16" diameter logs. Cut 30 cuts on 3
batteries and last on had a little left, pretty
accurate I'd say. For handiness around the farm
for trimming and the trees that always fall from
the woods into the field it's perfect. And for
taking on trails with four wheelers, golf cart
and or snowmobile its perfect, dont have to take
gas and keep staring and shutting off. Just get
out, squeeze the trigger, put it back and drive
on to the next. Still use the gas ones for major
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<div>The adaptive batteries will operate any of
the 20v items and last a long time. I have a 20v
fan in my shop that seems like I'm running all
the time. Just charged the battery last night
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in the same camp as you---my first goal was
to eliminate what 2 cycles I had---blower
and trimmer--and have now gone even a bit
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mentioning weedeaters, hedge trimmers, and
other small gas engines woes: go
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<div> So it’s starts with my wife - who
insists on doing some of the weed eating
around the farm(a good thing cause I hate
weed-eating) - not having the independence
to weed-eat on her own. I always had to
start the weed eater for her. I could
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<div> So I sold it for 50 bucks and bought
the Makita Electric. I am absolutely
flabbergasted that I didn’t think to make
the switch years ago. I love it. I
bought the package on Amazon that includes
the nice charger and an extra set of
batteries. Wasn’t particularly cheap but
two sets of batteries provides way more
than enough power to cross anyone’s
weed-eating stamina/boredom threshold. <br
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benefit is. No smoke? Easy start? Quiet?
No mixing fuel? Absolutely anyone can run
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<div> I’ll never go back to gas yard tools.
Only chainsaws and bigger stay gas.
Everything else is, or will be, electric.<br
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<div> >> My mother-in-laws 2 year old
Briggs push mower wouldn't crank on its
own. I replaced the primer bulb--that's
about all you can do to it. Spray some
starting fluid in it and it cranks and
runs fine. Replacement carbs are
aftermarket and cheap, but I don't really
trust them. Some online research indicates
some guys use 2 mounting gaskets, wonder
if there is an air leak due to warped
plastic parts? I may try this, otherwise
its headed to the dump as none of us need
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<div> >> Got a 25 year old weed
trimmer that I've had the carb apart 5-6
times. About ready to buy a cheap
replacement carb (thats all you can get).
I've replaced all the usual suspects,
cleaned the carb as best as I can , used
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<div> >> What happens now is it will
try to run with the choke completely on
until it completely floods the crankase.
Long story short the trimmer was given to
me by a mechanic that told the owner it
needed a new carb years ago. Its a high
hour machine but has good compression, and
has not been abused---just used a LOT. I
did find the ignition kill wire would
shock you--so that has now been
disconnected as I'm sure that wasn't
helping. This has really turned into pure
stubborness to make this thing run again.<br
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<div> >> I did manage to tear apart my
hedge trimmer carb and get out all the
debris from the primer bulb (it was
literally coming apart, never seen that
before) and it now runs better than it has
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good laugh once in a while. This should
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<div> >>> One of my Grandsons just
purchased his first house which has a
small grass lawn with it. Small enough
lawn a self-propelled 20 - 22" push mower
would be just fine. Since he is moving
out of an apartment he would need to buy a
mower. I volunteered to give him one of
mine that I have out in the barn that
haven't been run for a while. Don't even
remember now when or where I got this one,
it was probably cheap at some garage sale
or auction and is a Toro Model 20216.
Probably 20" to 22" (haven't measured)
deck with a 4HP Briggs motor and it can be
self-propelled with 3 forward gears
.Everything worked fine on it when I used
it last probably several years ago (ran
when parked) and my only two complaints
about it were the 4HP made it underpowered
and the aluminum deck was pretty brittle
and has been welded once. I have been
blessed with a wealth of rocks on my
yard. I noticed the deck now has a
couple more cracks but the mower is
useable as is all I have to do is get it
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<div> >>> I cleaned everything up,
cleaned the spark plug, changed oil and
put in new gas. I don't have a manual for
the mower and the only way I could figure
out how to get the old oil out was to
either pump it out or lay it on its side
and drain it out the fill tube. . Very
dumb and very owner unfriendly. . Anyway
tried to start it. Not even a pop.
Choke full on. Tried ether. Yep, I could
get it to run for a second or two but
obviously not getting gas to the cylinder.
Check gas line, check bowl, yep getting
gas to the carburetor. Sum Ting Wong with
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<div> >>> Now mistakenly I think I
know what I'm doing relative to
carburetors with several successful
Antique Tractor and Garden Tractor
carburetor rebuilds under my belt but it
has been a long time since I have worked
on a Lawn Mower Carburetor. But needing
to be humbled a bit I guess I have
forgotten a key detail about Briggs
carburetor's. I pulled the carb, removed
the bowl and found a sandy white substance
(dirt?) in the bowl and also in the needle
and seat well. Not typical of what I have
seen in carbs in the past. But continue to
disassemble removing the float and needle.
Don't see a removable seat and disassemble
the rest of the carb. Run small wires
through any opening I can find and make
sure they are clean and blow air through
any passage I can find. One thing that
happened worried me. I had the air hose
nozzle on the gas intake pipe and a little
pop occurred and something hit me in the
face. My observation was that it had come
out of the bottom where the needle seats..
Hmmmm .............must have been plugged
right there. 😊 Couldn't find what came
out. I bet the carburetor will work now.
Operator now in full idiot mode!😊<br
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<div> >>> Moving on, soaked the
carburetor in Pine Sol overnight and this
morning cleaned it with fresh water.
Carburetor looks like new. Man.... I am
really good. Hmm, the bowl gasket has
expanded in diameter in the pine sol. That
is not good. But start reassembling the
carburetor and put the float and needle in
place and it is obvious the needle is
dropping too far down and not seating
properly. Aha, that is what must have
blown out and hit me in the face. Hummmmm
how do you blow out a brass seat? Now I'm
confused. Get on the internet and watch a
video of an overhaul of this type of lawn
mower carburetor. Gets to the part about
removing the needle and seat. " An easy
way to get the little rubber needle seat
out is to blow air into the gas inlet of
the carburetor" Been there, done that.
Yep, I can completely verify that works
very well but I didn't know it when I did
it. @#$%^&*() Now I sure as hell
know what hit me in the face. I can't
find that little sucker. So... $9 gets me
a carburetor overhaul kit over night from
Amazon. Needed a new bowl gasket too.
Isn't it amazing how the problem and
solution can hit you right in the face???<br
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<div> >>> In searching for the
right carburetor kit I noticed I could
buy a whole new carburetor for $10.49. But
I have been down that road before and I
was not pleased with what I received. So
I'm staying with the OEM Carburetor. One
day delivery on the parts.<br clear="none">
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<div> >>> BTW, I'm not very sure
this mower is even worth the $9 carburetor
repair kit. But.... I am going to beat
this sucker into submission. This is the
way us old folks turn one hour jobs into a
full day's entertainment.<br clear="none">
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philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and gospel of envy, its
inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
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<div> >>> ..Winston Churchill...<br
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