Spencer,What is your opinion of Linux phones like the Pine Phone or the Librem 5 Purism? My current phone tracks everything and everywhere I am.Jim Thomson401-339-6902Rehoboth, MASent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> Date: 1/29/21 1:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Firefox problems
I was able to get Firefox fixed last night. I found my profile,
completely deleted Firefox, downloaded a fresh copy, which found my
old profile and I was back in business, after downloading the 3
add-ons that I use.
Thanks,
Mike M
On 1/29/2021 1:21 PM, Spencer Yost
wrote:
I’ll jump in here since cybersecurity is what I do for a
living and browser “hacking” and penetration testing is part of
what my department does.
Firefox and Brave are neck and neck in the race as to who
does the most to protect privacy. Firefox’s security features
are more customizable and therefore continues to get our
recommendation. Plus as others have mentioned here FIreFox’s
UI/UX is a known quantity and everyone is used to and
comfortable with FF. But Brave is very good and certainly a
great option.
If you’re really serious about all aspects of security the
TOR browser is the only way to go but it’s overkill for
virtually everyone in my humble opinion.
And just to prove all this is not so black-and-white, devices
play a role too. The browser that protects both your
overall security and privacy best when using Apple equipment
such as a MacBook, is good old Safari. Android and Apple
devices “sandbox” apps so then any browser becomes more secure
simply because of the device. Then you run it on Windows and
suddenly it becomes less secure :-)
https://source.android.com/security/app-sandbox
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/app_sandbox
All things being equal Firefox or Brave for privacy or Safari
on Apple stuff. Google Chrome and anything built on Google’s
chromium engine such Microsoft Edge is a distant second.
Spencer
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2021, at 10:00 AM, cgs
<oxygenfarm at gmail.com> wrote:
Linux Mint Mate 19.3, constantly updated,
with FF85.
On 1/29/21 9:54 AM, Stephen
Offiler wrote:
I was a Chrome user for years, and heard
about Brave maybe 6 months ago. I decided to give it a
try, and I've been running it at work ever since. I was
surprised how similar Brave is to Chrome. One
difference is the little lion symbol in the upper
right. That is the "shield" control. It is working to
block malicious sites, and sometimes goes overboard a
bit, so you can hit that symbol and change the controls
for the site in question.
At home I run Firefox under Linux Mint, whatever
version you get when you do the Linux install.
Checked this morning and discovered it's 85. I
understand MikeM's complaint is that the upgrade from
84 caused him to lose all of his customization. Aside
from that serious issue, Firefox 85 seems fine to me.
SO
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021
at 2:08 AM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
wrote:
Thanks Mogrits,
I was able to get Firefox to work again by
completely deleting it. It picked up my original
profile by default on the reinstall. I still have
Brave installed on my computer and will continue to
play with it, I'm concerned that Firefox has gotten
to big for their britches.
Best Regards,
Mike M
On 1/29/2021 1:31 AM, Mogrits wrote:
Mike you seemed to have privacy
concerns earlier. I'd recommend you try to get
used to Brave. I haven't had any adjustment
issues with Brave. It's a little bit different
concept but it works great. Every once in a
while you'll run into a site that won't load
because of what it blocks but I don't see that
as a negative.
On Thu, Jan
28, 2021 at 2:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
wrote:
Hi Phil, I tried Brave, like Mogrits
suggested, but just didn't care for how it
worked. I'm just too set in my ways. Tried
Chrome, and although it's different than
Firefox, the learning curve is shorter, and
it still allowed me to us my add blocking
extensions. I'll be using that for the
foreseeable future. Avoid Firefox 85 like
the plague.
Regards,
Mike M
On 1/28/2021 11:05 AM, Phil Auten
wrote:
Mike, Thanks for the heads up on the
Firefox update. I will second the
recommendation on DuckDuckGo as the
search engine, helps out a bunch on
blocking ads and pop up windows too.
Phil in TX
On 1/27/2021 11:53 PM, Mike M wrote:
Thanks, I'll give
it a shot, I had FF working like a well
oiled machine until the update, that's
what irritates me.
Regards,
Mike M
On 1/28/2021 12:23 AM, Mogrits
wrote:
Download Brave Browser
and set DuckDuckGo as your search
engine, since you are starting from
scratch you have nothing to lose. I
think you will love it.
On
Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:19 PM Mike
M <meulenms at gmx.com>
wrote:
Unfortunately it's not, so i
guess I start from ground zero.
Mike M
On 1/26/2021 8:42 PM,
Howard Pletcher wrote:
If
you did a Delete to get
rid of the new version, it
may be in your recycle
bin.
If
you did an Uninstall, then
probably not.
Howard
On Tue,
Jan 26, 2021 at 8:18 PM
Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
wrote:
85Hi Guys, Ok after
getting my old profile
back I didn't like
Firefox 85 at all with
all the tiles and what
not, it looked like
Windows 10. So I
foolishly deleted
Firefox 85 and was
hoping to download 84,
which I was happy with.
I then realized I had NO
browser. After dredging
up and old computer I
was able to download a
copy of Firefox to a
memory card and get a
browser back on my
computer. Now however it
seems that none of the
profiles contain all my
bookmarks and passwords.
Like I said before there
is a file on my desktop
that is called "old
firefox data" is there a
way i can create a new
profile to restore my
bookmarks and passwords
from that?
Thanks, Mike
On 1/26/2021 5:53
PM, Stuart Harner
wrote:
No,
that is just
Firefox just
trying to
collect all your
data on their
servers just
like Microsoft
and Google.
There is money
in data.
They
claim it is to
make things
easier for the
user. But I
DON’T want all
my various
computers to
have the same
profile! There
are separate
computers for a
reason and a
single profile
is not one of
them.
FF
is nice but it
is getting more
big brother with
each “upgrade”.
YMMV
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Ken Knierim
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Tuesday, January
26, 2021 4:11 PM
To:
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Subject:
Re: [AT] OT -
Firefox problems
Mike,
I'm running
the new
version (84 or
85) of
Firefox...
speed is a LOT
better on the
new one
(matching or
exceeding
Chrome on
several
benchmarks
with far
better
security) but
it's got some
quirks. They
are pushing
into using the
firefox
accounts where
you log into
firefox; when
I did this I
ended up with
my bookmarks
showing up
from my home
computer
(Linux Centos
7) and my work
computer
(Winders 10)
all added
together. I'm
not sure how
it's supposed
to work but
that's what I
ended up with.
This MAY help,
but it could
have also been
a Microsoft
update
(meaning MS
blew some
things away
for "security
reasons").
Hope
this helps
Ken
On
Tue, Jan 26,
2021 at 2:44
PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
wrote:
OK,
sorry for the
off topic
post, but I
have a real
problem. My
computer
updated to
Firefox 85
last night,
and now ALL my
bookmarks are
gone,
should I just
delete 85 and
reinstall an
older version.
There is a new
new folder on
my desktop
called old
Firefox data.
Thanks,
Mike M
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