[AT] Backpack leaf blower

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Sun Dec 12 18:16:44 PST 2021


Thank you Henry, it was just as you described!

Mike M

On 12/11/2021 5:06 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>
> Two cycle engines have a pin of some sort so the rings don't rotate. They need to be loose, but if they rotate in the grooves the gap will turn until they catch on the intake or exhaust port and then something will break.
>
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, at 15:40, Mike M wrote:
>> Hi Steve, the last rings I played with was from a Farmall H I rebuilt in
>> the 90's. The only 2 cycle oil I use is the Stihl silver bottle. The
>> only reason I tried to remove them, is that they wouldn't rotate
>> smoothly using an awl. I thought that maybe there was crud in the groove.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 12/11/2021 7:08 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> Hi Mike:
>>>
>>> Sounds like a reasonable conclusion.  Between getting work done with a
>>> new one, and farting around experimentally with the old one, you made
>>> the call that's right for you.
>>>
>>> Have you played around with piston rings much in the past? They are
>>> quite brittle to begin with. I'm not sure whether overheating would
>>> make them even more  brittle, but, maybe.  I think if they were
>>> seriously affected by heat, they might be discolored too.
>>>
>>> Another good call with concern about other internals. Specifically,
>>> bearings.  Mains, conrod, and piston pin are all lubricated by that
>>> tiny bit of oil that's carried in with the gas mix.
>>>
>>> Hey,  while we're here, I'll put in a plug for synthetic 2-stroke
>>> oil.  I am a Stihl guy (Stihl vs Husky is like JD vs Farmall or Ford
>>> vs Chevy!) and Stihl packages 2 different products.  Little orange
>>> bottles are the regular, "perfectly OK" stuff, and for more money you
>>> get silver bottles with the synthetic oil.  I use silver bottles.
>>> What I have noticed over time is that (a) the gas doesn't go stale (b)
>>> very little smoke or smell (c) I have never, and I am not
>>> exaggerating, NEVER purchased a spark plug.  I've got a saw that's
>>> probably about 15 years old now, a weed whacker must be going on 20,
>>> and a hedge trimmer that I got at auction, who knows how old.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Steve O.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 1:50 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>      I did tear it down further and removed the piston, When i tried to
>>>      remove the upper piston ring it snapped and was very brittle, I
>>>      assume from over heating. I bought a new blower, the exact same
>>>      model, and will keep the old one as a parts machine. One concern I
>>>      had with just replacing the jug and piston, is I don't know what
>>>      internals might be damaged.
>>>
>>>      Regards,
>>>      Mike M
>>>
>>>      On 12/9/2021 7:59 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>>      Hi Mike:
>>>>
>>>>      I didn't get any picture with this note.  Maybe it got stripped
>>>>      due to excessive image size? There's a limit.  I think below
>>>>      around 350K (working from memory) is good to go.
>>>>
>>>>      Steve O.
>>>>
>>>>      On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 7:26 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          Hi Steve,
>>>>          Here's a better picture of the scoring, this piston is
>>>>          literally the diameter of a silver dollar. my reason for the
>>>>          first pic was to figure out how to get the piston pin out. I
>>>>          may have to send this in separate posts.
>>>>
>>>>          Thanks,
>>>>          Mike M
>>>>
>>>>          On 12/8/2021 6:40 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>>>>          Hi Moe,
>>>>>          Here's a shot of the piston and the retaining pin, not
>>>>>          really sure how to get the pin out since the retaining clip
>>>>>          appears to be a washer not a cir clip. I can order a new
>>>>>          cylinder, piston, pin, washers and and gaskets for about
>>>>>          $40, a lot cheaper than a new blower. Thanks for any advice
>>>>>          anyone can offer.
>>>>>
>>>>>          Regards, Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          On 12/2/2021 6:39 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>          So what's the cylinder inside look like?
>>>>>>          Can you save it?
>>>>>>          Husqvarna trimmer is well worth the repair costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              So I pulled apart my leaf blower today, and looked at
>>>>>>              the exhaust port, as was suggested. Heavy scoring on
>>>>>>              the piston. So you were right, she ran it with straight
>>>>>>              fuel.
>>>>>>              Mike M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              On 11/27/2021 7:20 PM, Moe Fretz wrote:
>>>>>>>              No, engine has experienced a lean seizure.
>>>>>>>              Lack of lube is another way to put it.
>>>>>>>              No quick fix.
>>>>>>>              The engine will need a piston and rings at the least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              Pull off the muffler, look in at the piston, you’ll
>>>>>>>              see the piston scored on the exhaust side.
>>>>>>>              If you’re lucky the cylinder isn’t damaged, you’ll
>>>>>>>              have to
>>>>>>>              pull the cylinder to check it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              Used to do 15 or 20 of those every year.
>>>>>>>              One quick error, sometimes, can cost a lot of money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 15:33 Mike M
>>>>>>>              <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                  So my lovely wife was out blowing leaves the other
>>>>>>>                  day with my backpack
>>>>>>>                  blower, and it ran out of fuel. She mistakenly
>>>>>>>                  filled it with straight
>>>>>>>                  lawnmower gas, and after a bit it started to
>>>>>>>                  stumble and then quit. She
>>>>>>>                  came in to tell me about it and ask what the
>>>>>>>                  problem was. When I looked
>>>>>>>                  at the tank I noticed there was no blue tint in
>>>>>>>                  the gas, and I asked her
>>>>>>>                  what can she filled it from, and she pointed to
>>>>>>>                  the gas container I use
>>>>>>>                  for my zero turn. I told her that was straight
>>>>>>>                  gas, and she needed to
>>>>>>>                  use the 2 cycle mix, that is in another red 5
>>>>>>>                  gallon can, honest
>>>>>>>                  mistake. She claims I told her to use that fuel,
>>>>>>>                  when I know I did not.
>>>>>>>                  I used it today and it will run for about 5
>>>>>>>                  minutes and then sputter out
>>>>>>>                  and die, like it's running out of gas. It will
>>>>>>>                  restart, but then the
>>>>>>>                  same scenario starts all over again. Is their any
>>>>>>>                  chance of saving this
>>>>>>>                  engine? Maybe a higher oil/gas ratio? Thanks in
>>>>>>>                  advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                  Regards,
>>>>>>>                  Mike M
>>>>>>>
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