[AT] Off topic - P/U Accident --- Front Dash Camera recommendation

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Fri Aug 20 09:00:26 PDT 2021


I agree with Carl.  However, with no video all you have is the left 
front damage to Dean's truck and the right side of the other one.   It 
is amazing in court how things bite you in the ass.  I ended up losing 
$2000 on repair of a horse trailer when I went to court.  The owner of 
the trailer claimed I did not fix the lights when the problem was in her 
truck which I never had..  Without video it comes down to testimony...
Cecil

On 8/20/2021 10:15 AM, Carl Szabelski wrote:
> Dean,
>
> Can’t help with the dash cam question, however, I had a similar issue 
> with a driver who hit my daughter head on. Claimed he had to swerve 
> into oncoming traffic to avoid rear ending the car in front of him. He 
> provided insurance papers to the Sheriff Deputy who took the report. 
> Contacted our insurance and they handled everything. Then I got a 
> letter from them that said my deductible would have to be paid because 
> his insurance rejected the claim, and I would have to go after him in 
> small claims court if I wanted him to reimburse me. Filed the case and 
> went to court. He was found guilty and ordered to pay or provide proof 
> of insurance. He provided an insurance certificate for the car, but it 
> was in another person’s name. Called his insurance company, provided 
> all the information on the certificate, and was told his car was not 
> covered under that policy. Apparently a fake insurance certificate. 
> Back to court. Found guilty again and ordered to pay. He was allowed 
> to agree to monthly payments, which I accepted as long as we got the 
> money. Two months later no payments. To court again. This time his 
> wages were garnished (I knew where he worked since it was in the 
> sheriff’s report). Wound up costing him more since he also pay all the 
> court costs.
>
> If he has a criminal record, he may be on probation and the local 
> police should have an address for him. Ask if they can help you there. 
> Also, the state should have an address if he has a legal license. 
> Don’t know if you can file in small claims in Washington like I did, 
> but you should look into it. No reason why it should cost you 
> anything. You were on the main road and had the right of way. You 
> didn’t hit him, he backed into you out of the driveway. If he has 
> insurance, any injuries he has should be covered by his insurance. If 
> he tries to claim injury, he’s going to have to explain why the 
> injuries aren’t covered by his insurance. Also if he has insurance, 
> why hasn’t his insurance paid for his repairs?
>
> Carl
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021, <deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>         Sorry to change the subject but I have a little challenge
>         right now. My antique Tractor puller P/U and I were in a
>         little fender bender incident recently which has become very
>         complex since  the other driver gave me all false data as to
>         who he was, where he lived, how to contact him  and whether he
>         was insured or not.  Other than that things are going well.
>         After about 5 days of online investigation my wife and I
>         tracked him down and have a working cell phone number for
>         him.  I’ve talked to him and we have exchanged several text
>         messages but I still don’t know where he lives and who his
>         insurance company is. I gave him my insurance company verbally
>         at the accident but he seems to have forgotten it and now
>         repeatedly asks for who the company is. I refuse to give it to
>         him until I get a valid insurance company name from him.  All
>         he will talk about is getting his truck fixed.  And that the
>         accident was my fault. To add more stupid stuff to this whole
>         fiasco he is now claiming injury which is a crock of cow dung.
>
>         He backed out of a blind driveway onto the road heading in the
>         same direction as I was.  This was at about 9:45PM and it was
>         pitch black dark with no street lights way out in the
>         country.  I only noticed the reflection of my headlights off
>         of the side of his black Dodge Pick Up. No tail lights, no
>         back up lights, no brake lights, no running lights, no lights
>         of any sort. I immediately slammed on the brakes and started
>         steering and braking to the right  of his truck which was now
>         close to being in the right orientation to head down the road.
>         I saw the eye of a needle to try to get between the truck and
>         the trees at the driveway exit.  Well, I came to a stop right
>         after brushing the side of his truck and messing up my left
>         fender. I got close to threading the needle.  Could have been
>         a pretty violent rear-ender otherwise.   But as you might
>         expect he is now blaming me and I hit him therefore I am at
>         fault.  I have no witnesses to prove what happened. I’ve
>         informed my insurance Co and filed a collision report with the
>         Washington State Patrol.  I’m pretty sure he is an uninsured
>         driver which is illegal in our state. In my investigation
>         tracking him down I have been told he is involved in illicit
>          drugs and he DOES have a criminal record..  So…. Due to this
>         I am looking for a dash camera to mount on our vehicles so I
>         don’t have to go through this situation of not having proof
>         again.
>
>         So I’m looking for Dash Camera suggestions for my 2003 Ford
>         F250 and a 2016 Buick L:acrosse.  I usually don’t buy the
>         fancy stuff I just get the basics  in a good product that are
>         needed.    Suggestions would be appreciated???? I’ve had one
>         recommended to me and that is a Rove 4 but I know nothing
>         about it yet.
>
>         Dean VP
>
>         Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>         "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
>         and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing
>         of misery."
>
>         ..Winston Churchill...
>
>
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