[AT] EVENING UPDATE

[STEVE ALLEN]

OK, gents:  here is what I found tonight:

The condenser has NO continuity between its case and the terminal.  With the wires removed from the screw terminal on the points, the two parts of the points have NO continuity between them.  

For those familiar with WICO X mags, the points are connected together by a screw that holds the spring for the moving point in an insulated block on the frame of the lower, non-moving point.  Two wires are attached to that screw.  One comes from the condenser; the other comes out of the coil.  THAT wire in my mag has continuity with the case of the mag.  There is NO continuity between it and the center contact on the coil itself.  

If the condenser is bad, continuity between its center terminal and its case is NOT the failure mode.  

The points have continuity between them when open ONLY when the wire from the coil is attached to them.

That's all I know new tonight.

The "original" Steve Allen


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From: Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net>
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Subject: Re: [AT] Project Updates '49 A, '51 A, and '47 B (STEVE
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'49A - If your points are clean and reading .5 ohms when closed and .7 
ohms with cardboard separating the points, your points are shorted. With 
the cardboard in, they should read an open circuit, and .5 ohms when 
closed says your contacts aren't making contact well. If you took those 
measurements with the points installed, disconnect them and retest. If 
the points read 0.0 ohms closed and open circuit with the cardboard in, 
then the problem is elsewhere.
'49 A: I forgot to mention, if the points measure correctly outside the 
distributor you may have a bad coil.

Phil in TX

Phil,

Remember that the points set in a Wico X mag is two separate pieces.  If I take them off, I can screw them back together and check for continuity, BUT:  while mounted in the mag,
the fixed one is in contact with the case of the mag, and the other, the one that moves, is in contact with the terminal of the condenser.  Now, let me speculate here:  
the terminal in the condenser does not touch the case of the condenser, right?  So, the two points should not have continuity because the one is connected to the terminal 
and the other is "connected" (through the case) to the mag case.  UNLESS there is continuity inside the condenser.  I do not understand condensers well at all, 
but *SHOULD there be continuity between the case of the condenser and the terminal of the condenser*?  
If not, that may well be my problem (per Cecil).  I will investigate tonight.

BTW, I know that the shaft is turning and that the points are opening and closing:  I have verified that much by turning the crank.

The "original" Steve Allen
Who is avoiding the local Menards