[AT] Right to repair

[Mike M]

When I was looking at a small compact tractor, I had a choice between a
Kubota 39 horse or a Mahindra 40 horse. I drove both and liked them
both, Kubota makes a nice machine. When we sat down to talk numbers, the
salesman, (same dealership franchise) said if I liked them both he would
opt for the year older Mahindra with a Tier III engine vs the Kubota
that had a Tier IV engine. Mind you this was at least 5 years ago, but
he said that the Tier IV engines where coming in with problems his techs
did not have the knowledge or equipment to fix. If they are not run
hard, they go into regen  mode and you have to put them at full throttle
and let it run that way for 30 minutes to clean the filter. Not sure if
this is still the case, I suspect not, but at the time it made my choice
easy. My Tier III is all mechanical, which means that if I can't fix it
any diesel mechanic would have no problem with it, no electronics or
computer for the engine.

Mike M

On 3/8/2020 10:53 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> That will get you about 16 years of AlldataDIY, which I
> highly recommend vs the printed manual.
>
> https://www.alldatadiy.com/buy/
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com
> <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Service Manual for 2019 F150 shown as costing $186 plus tax and
>     shipping.
>
>     https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4
>     <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4>
>
>     Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor
>     <https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/farmers-fight-john-deere-over-who-gets-to-fix-an-dollar800000-tractor/ar-BB10MABk?ocid=NL_ENUS_A2_20200308_6_4>
>     Anything a farmer does on a modern tractor, beginning with opening
>     the cab door, generates messages captured by its main onboard
>     computer, which uploads the signals to the cloud via a cellular ...
>     www.msn.com <http://www.msn.com>
>
>
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>     *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>     <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> on behalf of Ralph
>     Goff <alfg at sasktel.net <mailto:alfg at sasktel.net>>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:00 PM
>     *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>     <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>     <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [AT] Right to repair
>
>
>     On 2019-11-21 6:10 a.m., bradloomis at charter.net
>     <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Not being a farmer but a maintenance mechanic who repairs all
>>     manner of items I’ve read with interest the comments on this list
>>     about “Right to repair” and the big manufacturers. Today’s NY
>>     Times has an editorial on just that as it relates to the
>>     military. Our tax dollars at work, against us. Not sure, you may
>>     need a subscription to read but jeez, what a mess. Send equipment
>>     back to the States from the battlefield because the Marines can’t
>>     repair their equipment.
>>
>>     https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/opinion/military-right-to-repair.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_191121?campaign_id=2&instance_id=13923&segment_id=18966&user_id=57181594d83579e309e3a0907875e753&regi_id=26359631121
>>
>>     Brad
>>
>>
>     That is just one more reason I'm happy to be running older
>     machinery and vehicles built before y2k.
>
>     Ralph in Sask.
>
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