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    When I was looking at a small compact tractor, I had a choice
    between a Kubota 39 horse or a Mahindra 40 horse. I drove both and
    liked them both, Kubota makes a nice machine. When we sat down to
    talk numbers, the salesman, (same dealership franchise) said if I
    liked them both he would opt for the year older Mahindra with a Tier
    III engine vs the Kubota that had a Tier IV engine. Mind you this
    was at least 5 years ago, but he said that the Tier IV engines where
    coming in with problems his techs did not have the knowledge or
    equipment to fix. If they are not run hard, they go into regen  mode
    and you have to put them at full throttle and let it run that way
    for 30 minutes to clean the filter. Not sure if this is still the
    case, I suspect not, but at the time it made my choice easy. My Tier
    III is all mechanical, which means that if I can't fix it any diesel
    mechanic would have no problem with it, no electronics or computer
    for the engine. <br>
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    Mike M<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/2020 10:53 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">That will get you about 16 years of AlldataDIY,
        which I highly recommend vs the printed manual.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:45
          AM James Peck <<a href="mailto:jamesgpeck@hotmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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              Manual for 2019 F150 shown as costing $186 plus tax and
              shipping.</div>
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                          Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an
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                        a farmer does on a modern tractor, beginning
                        with opening the cab door, generates messages
                        captured by its main onboard computer, which
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                sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <<a
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                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>>
                on behalf of Ralph Goff <<a
                  href="mailto:alfg@sasktel.net" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">alfg@sasktel.net</a>><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:00 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a
                  href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>
                <<a href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Right to repair</font>
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              <div>On 2019-11-21 6:10 a.m., <a
                  href="mailto:bradloomis@charter.net" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">
                  bradloomis@charter.net</a> wrote:<br>
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                  <p>Not being a farmer but a maintenance mechanic who
                    repairs all manner of items I’ve read with interest
                    the comments on this list about “Right to repair”
                    and the big manufacturers. Today’s NY Times has an
                    editorial on just that as it relates to the
                    military. Our tax dollars at work, against us. Not
                    sure, you may need a subscription to read but jeez,
                    what a mess. Send equipment back to the States from
                    the battlefield because the Marines can’t repair
                    their equipment.
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                  <p>Brad</p>
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              <p>That is just one more reason I'm happy to be running
                older machinery and vehicles built before y2k.
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              <p>Ralph in Sask.<br>
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