[AT] Two variations of Standard diesel used in Fergusons

[James Peck]

At 6.5:1 compression ratio for the TO-30 with Z129 Continental and the TO-35 with Standard 23C at 20:1 compression ratio and slightly larger piston diameter you are right that the 23C engine can't be hand cranked by most people.

Sometime in the fifties the Massey Ferguson sheet metal no longer has crank holes in the front.
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Could the 23C be hand cranked?  I've never owned one, but I doubt that it
could be cranked over the first compression stroke!


> The gasoline Continental engines had a reputation for cracking. I never
> saw it.
>
> They could be hand cranked and my dad had a crank. It was kept hanging by
> putting the long end down next to the hydraulic lift lever.
>
> Could the 23C be hand cranked?
>
> https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ferg&th=80142
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> Thomas Martin <tmartin at xtra.co.nz>
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>
> -So Thomas, are the 20C and 23C the two variations of Standard diesel
> engines you mention?
>
> Standard Vanguard 80mm and 85mm 4-Cyl Petrol or Kero Engine
> Standard Vanguard 20C 4-Cylinder Diesel Engine ​
> Standard Vanguard 87mm 4-Cyl Petrol ​
> Standard Vanguard 23C 4-Cyl Diesel Engine
>
> I had been unaware that the 23C had been used in TO35s assembled in
> Detroit until this thread came along.
>
> My understanding is that Standard started out assembling TE20s using
> Continental Z120 engines and that Standard then used the Z120 as the
> starting point for their engine. What is your understanding?
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> This Australian source carries parts for 5 Standard engines including the
> 23C. In my opinion they do not sell rotary injection pumps, high pressure
> diesel fuel lines, and injectors because those are available though fuel
> injection dealers.
>
> https://waggatractorparts.com/ecommerce/category/791-standard-23c-engine?limitstart=20
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