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<span>At 6.5:1 compression ratio for the TO-30 with Z129 Continental and the TO-35 with Standard 23C at 20:1 compression ratio and slightly larger piston diameter you are right that the 23C engine can't be hand cranked by most people.</span></div>
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<span>Sometime in the fifties the Massey Ferguson sheet metal no longer has crank holes in the front.</span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of John Maddock <agtronixjv@southcom.com.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:52 PM<br>
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<div class="PlainText">Could the 23C be hand cranked? I've never owned one, but I doubt that it
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could be cranked over the first compression stroke!<br>
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> The gasoline Continental engines had a reputation for cracking. I never<br>
> saw it.<br>
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> They could be hand cranked and my dad had a crank. It was kept hanging by<br>
> putting the long end down next to the hydraulic lift lever.<br>
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> Could the 23C be hand cranked?<br>
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> <a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ferg&th=80142">
https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ferg&th=80142</a><br>
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> From: AT <at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of James Peck<br>
> <jamesgpeck@hotmail.com><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 12:43 AM<br>
> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at@lists.antique-tractor.com>;<br>
> Thomas Martin <tmartin@xtra.co.nz><br>
> Subject: [AT] Two variations of Standard diesel used in Fergusons<br>
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> -So Thomas, are the 20C and 23C the two variations of Standard diesel<br>
> engines you mention?<br>
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> Standard Vanguard 80mm and 85mm 4-Cyl Petrol or Kero Engine<br>
> Standard Vanguard 20C 4-Cylinder Diesel Engine <br>
> Standard Vanguard 87mm 4-Cyl Petrol <br>
> Standard Vanguard 23C 4-Cyl Diesel Engine<br>
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> I had been unaware that the 23C had been used in TO35s assembled in<br>
> Detroit until this thread came along.<br>
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> My understanding is that Standard started out assembling TE20s using<br>
> Continental Z120 engines and that Standard then used the Z120 as the<br>
> starting point for their engine. What is your understanding?<br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Jim Peck <jamesgpeck@yahoo.com><br>
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:09 PM<br>
> To: jamesgpeck@hotmail.com <jamesgpeck@hotmail.com><br>
> Subject:<br>
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> This Australian source carries parts for 5 Standard engines including the<br>
> 23C. In my opinion they do not sell rotary injection pumps, high pressure<br>
> diesel fuel lines, and injectors because those are available though fuel<br>
> injection dealers.<br>
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> <a href="https://waggatractorparts.com/ecommerce/category/791-standard-23c-engine?limitstart=20">
https://waggatractorparts.com/ecommerce/category/791-standard-23c-engine?limitstart=20</a><br>
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