[AT] OT - Any HVAC people on here

[Kenneth Gene Waugh]

My wife and I were second generation customers of a local HVAC outfit,
going back 40-45 years. Last year I was out of town and my wife had to call
them for an emergency call—10 minutes to kick the snow from the exhaust at
11 pm. They charged us $400. When I complained they knocked FIVE DOLLARS
off of the bill. We are now with a different contractor.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:58 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:

> Carl, didn't mean any disrespect, but I have a friend in the commercial
> HVAC trades, actually a boiler technician/pipefitter. A friend of his
> called him to tell him his furnace was out, rather than bug him he
> called a repair company. Tech came out and diagnosed it as a bad control
> board. He happened to have one in his truck and installed it in 15
> minutes.  Total charge $700. When my buddy got home from work he called
> his friend and he was told the story. He called the supply house he
> deals with and his cost for the board would have been $70. He called the
> owner of the service company and chewed a$$, and told him he would
> spread the word about his company. Owner dropped the bill from $700 to
> $200 reasonable for the service call and part plus time. HVAC is like a
> license to print money.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 6/23/2020 10:18 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> > Know what it cost and what I paid for it. If I could have gotten one the
> next day I would have done it myself. But with it being the middle of
> winter and with three kids, I needed to get I fixed. Probably could have
> jerry rigged it to work until I got a new one, but why chance burning down
> the house while waiting for the delivery of a new part.
> >
> > Carl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Sent: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 20:18:04 -0400 (EDT)
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Any HVAC people on here
> >
> > You don't even want to know what that control board cost vs what you
> > were charged unless you're a HVAC contractor with a connection to a
> > supply house.
> >
> > Mike M
> >
> >
> > On 6/23/2020 7:44 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> >> We may do that, wife hasn’t made a decision yet. I’ve already done some
> maintenance on it in the last few years.  It’s a 95% efficient unit that
> only failed us once during the winter were we had to have somebody come in
> and replace the control board.
> >>
> >> Wife’s biggest job for me this summer is replacing our wood deck with
> composite. Three sections, one 24’x27’, one 27’x12’’, and a 16’ gazebo,
> plus steps and railing. Rough estimate is $10,000+, and a couple of weeks
> in the July sun. 😭😭😭
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: bradloomis at charter.net
> >> To: 'Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group' <
> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:24:35 -0400 (EDT)
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Any HVAC people on here
> >>
> >> Carl, you may really want to consider replacing that 20 year old
> furnace with a new one. As one who serviced a ton of old furnaces during
> that part of my life that I did, cracked heat exchangers, particulary in an
> area of cold winters, and propane, which is hotter than NG, is a real
> possibility. I won't even go into the efficiencies of newer equipment.
> Spencer covered that. Of course things today aren't built like things of
> old. Everything is a crapshoot really. But if you choose not to upgrade the
> FAU, then please buy and keep up a CO detector.
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of
> szabelski at wildblue.net
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:50 AM
> >> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <
> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT - Any HVAC people on here
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> You run your air 3-4 months a year??? What part of Michigan do you live
> in. We live in Southeastern Michigan (near Marine City) and if we had air
> we would only run the it for maybe 2-3 weeks a year. That’s probably
> because we live near the water. (Actually, if we had air we’d probably run
> it a lot more. 😁).  For now we just open all the windows and doors, and
> close the drapes on the sunny side of the house. Two ceiling fans in the
> family room keep us mostly comfortable through the day.
> >>
> >> You can go on line a get estimates for what a unit would cost for your
> area. You’ll see some variance in prices, but some of it depends on what
> manufacturer is being installed, how big the unit is, and some on what big
> name installer you’re hiring. Just do a search on something like .... AC
> installation, (county), Michigan.
> >>
> >> Be careful about the guy who comes in and tells you you need to replace
> something like the heat exchanger because it’s cracked, that’s an old ploy
> to beef up their sale. Have you talked to the people who put in the
> furnace? Maybe they’ll cut you a deal as a repeat customer.
> >>
> >> They’re going to run a natural gas line down our road sometime next
> month, so after 20+ years of propane, we’ll have to get the furnace
> converted back to natural gas. We’ll probably look at adding AC while it’s
> being done, so we’ll be in the same boat as you are now.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <
> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 23:39:20 -0400 (EDT)
> >> Subject: [AT] OT - Any HVAC people on here
> >>
> >> Getting a price on having a 3 Ton AC unit replaced, mated to a brand
> new furnace that was installed last year. AC unit is 22 years old, and I'm
> afraid it's going to bite the dust in the middle of a heat wave. Would
> appreciate any advice on cost. Had one company quote me $2700, but that was
> more than the furnace. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Note I'm in
> Michigan, so I'm not going for super high efficiency, waste of money there,
> we only run it 3-4 months a year.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike M
> >>
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Gene
Kenneth Gene Waugh
Elgin, Illinois
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