[AT] Poison Ivy

Mon Jun 15 08:46:36 PDT 2020

Life insurers in particular will take either end of the wager...

Buy term life and bet that you will die.

or

Buy annuities and bet that you will live.

On 6/15/2020 8:19 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Technical term is "actuarial statistics" and ALL insurance is just a 
> betting game that you will give them more than they have to give you.  
> In the absence of any subsidies, they don't survive unless this is true.
>
> SO
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:53 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net 
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>     Health insurance wants to wait out your life and hope that you
>     will have to collect on your life insurance..  It is an accounting
>     decision.
>     Cecil
>
>
>
>     On 6/14/2020 11:36 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>     Interesting you would say that, Steve. Had a lower abdomen CT
>>     that showed a 5mm nodule on my right lung. NP and my PCP ordered
>>     a full CT of my lungs. Insurance denied it because they only
>>     allow the scan of any organ every 6 months. The scan only showed
>>     my lower lungs, not my upper lungs. So I wait my 6 months and
>>     then have it reordered. Go figure.
>>
>>     Mike M
>>
>>     On 6/14/2020 11:55 PM, Sewell, Steven wrote:
>>>     About 5 years ago I had a low dose lung CT scan. It showed a
>>>     spot here and there. Up to CMH - OSU Med Center for a biopsy. 
>>>     Calcified Granuloma. Still need check on it. Intake nurse at OSU
>>>     started on a questionnaire / checklist. I stopped her and Said -
>>>     "check all the boxes". Been there - done that on all of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Steve Sewell
>>>     Albany, Ohio USA
>>>     sewell at ohio.edu <mailto:sewell at ohio.edu>
>>>     sewell at atis.net <mailto:sewell at atis.net>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>     <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of
>>>     Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>     <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:35 PM
>>>     *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>     <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>     <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>     *Subject:* [AT] Poison Ivy
>>>     My father started spraying corn fields and fence rows with 2-4-D
>>>     in the 1940's right after WW-II. DDT in the milking barn was a
>>>     daily thing. They bought this farm in 1951 and it was massively
>>>     overgrown with Honey Locust thorn trees. You know, the kind with
>>>     "giant" thorns.
>>>     I spent a lot of years spraying all manner of stuff and my
>>>     father was not very safety minded when it came to spraying. Of
>>>     course neither was the government back then. My father used to
>>>     preach at me that it was required that the spray mix HAD to run
>>>     off of every leaf of every plant.
>>>     About 10 years ago my Doctor moved away and we had to find a new
>>>     one. She sat me down and asked a thousand questions, knowing
>>>     that I was a farmer, and made big list of all of the things I
>>>     had been exposed to. Then she put me on a sort of an automatic
>>>     list I guess pretty much saying that I had a very high
>>>     probability of cancer. So far so good, still in the clear.
>>>     By age 11 I was spraying agent orange (mix of 2-4-D, 2-4-5-T and
>>>     stove oil) all summer long using a three gallon metal hand
>>>     sprayer, spraying all kinds of brush and especially those Honey
>>>     Locust about 4 to 5 feet up the trunks. We sprayed all of our
>>>     corn with 2-4-D at "lay-by". By the time I was about 14 I was
>>>     doing about all of the spraying. I can't begin to name all of
>>>     the stuff I sprayed over the years, mostly typical corn belt
>>>     chemicals as they came along. Lasso, Treflan, Atrazine, 2-4-D-B,
>>>     many others and of course Round-up... I still use Round-up and
>>>     2-4-D but I'm pretty conservative with them.
>>>     During those years I also worked with a fair amount of asbestos,
>>>     sawing, drilling and nailing it as well as removing it from
>>>     several structures (before modern restrictions).
>>>     When Diana and I got married I worked for a number of years I
>>>     worked in a plastics plant and constantly worked with a bunch of
>>>     kind of scary solvents with big warning labels that the company
>>>     didn't take very seriously...
>>>     Then we owned a store and added a shoe repair shop (an old
>>>     family trade) and for 20 years I worked daily in a cloud of
>>>     quite squirrley adhesives, solvents and thinners.
>>>     Every time I go see the doctor she asks the same batch of
>>>     questions making sure nothing is going wrong. That and checking
>>>     me for any indications of our family curse. Of my parents and my
>>>     sister and myself I am the only one that has not been diagnosed
>>>     with Altzheimers... They are all gone now... Both my mother and
>>>     my sister died from it. My father had it pretty bad but
>>>     congestive heart failure killed him first.
>>>     Like I said, "so far so good". At 78 I'm still passing all of my
>>>     tests.  :-)
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     -- 
>>>
>>>     Francis Robinson
>>>     aka "farmer"
>>>     Central Indiana USA
>>>     robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     AT mailing list
>>>     AT at lists.antique-tractor.com  <mailto:AT at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>     http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
>>
>>
>>     <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon>
>>     	Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>     <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>>
>>
>>     <#m_2655993705631026250_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     AT mailing list
>>     AT at lists.antique-tractor.com  <mailto:AT at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>     http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
>     _______________________________________________
>     AT mailing list
>     AT at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:AT at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>     http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> AT at lists.antique-tractor.com
> http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.antique-tractor.com/pipermail/at-antique-tractor.com/attachments/20200615/e009779b/attachment.htm>