[AT] Good tractor day, finally

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon Jul 20 06:17:01 PDT 2020


As I remember reading about Walter P. Chrysler, his motto was form 
follows function while GM's was function follows form...
Cecil


On 7/20/2020 6:33 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Agreed Howard and I'll add this:  They are designed to be built 
> quickly and efficiently, because labor is expensive.   The amount of 
> consideration given to repair and maintenance varies a ton, and if a 
> change is going to cost another penny to build, they usually (not 
> always, but usually) won't do it.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:46 AM Howard Pletcher <hrpletch at gmail.com 
> <mailto:hrpletch at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I was not in the design area at International Trucks so I did not
>     do that work, but I had friends that were.  Generally a new
>     vehicle starts with a design that sets the size of an envelope the
>     engineers have to work with.  Certain things like engines and
>     radiators get their share of the space first as they usually
>     cannot be moved around in that envelope.  Then other groups start
>     placing their components in the space that's left with some groups
>     having more freedom to claim space than others--internal
>     politics.  Those on the low end of the totem pole are sometimes
>     scrambling to make room for what has to be there.  No, they can't
>     make the front end two inches longer or add a bulge on the side of
>     a fender to squeeze in what's needed although sometimes early in
>     the process that two inches might be added when the original
>     concept proves too impractical.  The engineers know that
>     serviceability may be lacking, but they have little say in the
>     matter at that point.
>
>     Howard
>
>     On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:12 AM HERBERT METZ
>     <metz-h.b at comcast.net <mailto:metz-h.b at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>         I am not intimately knowledgeable about the auto industry, but
>         my current thinking is the stylists probably have as much
>         authority as do the engineers.  Herb(GA)
>
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