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    <p>As I remember reading about Walter P. Chrysler, his motto was
      form follows function while GM's was function follows form...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2020 6:33 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">Agreed Howard and I'll add this:  They are designed
        to be built quickly and efficiently, because labor is
        expensive.   The amount of consideration given to repair and
        maintenance varies a ton, and if a change is going to cost
        another penny to build, they usually (not always, but usually)
        won't do it.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:46
          AM Howard Pletcher <<a href="mailto:hrpletch@gmail.com"
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                style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I was not in the
                design area at International Trucks so I did not do that
                work, but I had friends that were.  Generally a new
                vehicle starts with a design that sets the size of an
                envelope the engineers have to work with.  Certain
                things like engines and radiators get their share of the
                space first as they usually cannot be moved around in
                that envelope.  Then other groups start placing their
                components in the space that's left with some groups
                having more freedom to claim space than others--internal
                politics.  Those on the low end of the totem pole are
                sometimes scrambling to make room for what has to be
                there.  No, they can't make the front end two inches
                longer or add a bulge on the side of a fender to squeeze
                in what's needed although sometimes early in the process
                that two inches might be added when the original concept
                proves too impractical.  The engineers know that
                serviceability may be lacking, but they have little say
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at
                11:12 AM HERBERT METZ <<a
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I am not intimately
                knowledgeable about the auto industry, but my current
                thinking is the stylists probably have as much authority
                as do the engineers.  Herb(GA)<br>
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