[AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.

[Stephen Offiler]

Funny we're talking about headlights.  Just last night my wife told me a
high beam bulb was out on her Subaru Forester.  Google told me it uses a
9005 for the high beam (H11 low beam, for the record) so I picked one up on
the way home, and I had it changed out in a matter of seconds.  Trivially
easy access from behind.  This on the driver side.  Passenger side has one
piece of intake plumbing to be moved, looks like 2 screws and another
minute and a half.

I haven't seen Cecil's comments come thru yet, but I do see others are
responding to him.  I'd say this comment is incorrect:  "This is the
problem of designing with Autocad and those other computer drafting
programs. The designer has no idea of the clearance in the finished
product."  Just the opposite.  Modern 3D CAD that is undoubtedly being used
in automotive design is rich with tools to examine clearances and
interferences in assemblies.

SO


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:28 PM Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:

> You betcha! I replaced the headlight bulbs in my '09 F-150 recently. Had
> to remove the entire housing assembly to do it. It was not really that
> hard, but on my old '91 I could do it from the back side in less than 30
> min. for both sides. Took at least twice as long for the '09.Vehicle
> manufacturers are not concerned with you being able to repair their
> vehicles. As a matter of fact, the dealers are very happy with this
> since their repair facilities make far more money for them than new
> vehicle sales.
>
> Phil in TX
>
>
> On 1/15/2020 9:35 AM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> > My "new"2011 Silverado 2500 HD LTZ is the nicest truck and vehicle I
> > have ever owned.  It runs great and for 185000 miles it uses no oil
> > and pulls anything I need a 3/4 ton for.  However, the lights are
> > terrible.  I ordered a new set of headlights online for $140 instead
> > of trying to buff out the old ones.  I spent ab out an hour trying to
> > install them yesterday then gave up and looked at Alldatadiy.com.
> > The factory estimate is 1.1 hours for installation and that is about 3
> > hours short of what it will take.   My truck has a cowcatcher on the
> > front,  It has to come off, the lower plastic and the bumper have to
> > come off to get to the grill that has to come off and then I can get
> > the headlight out.  This is the problem of designing with Autocad and
> > those other computer drafting programs. The designer has no idea of
> > the clearance in the finished product. 1/2inch would have probably
> > allowed removal without all the other parts being removed.  The grill
> > could be removed if there was another 1/2 inch between the grill and
> > the bumper.I decided to just try to buff the old ones. Whoever
> > authorized this installation should have been neutered with a dull knife.
> > Cecil
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