[AT] AT Digest, Vol 24, Issue 17
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1. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. (Aaron Dickinson)
2. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. (Aaron Dickinson)
3. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
(Indiana Robinson)
4. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. (Cecil Bearden)
5. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. (Cecil Bearden)
6. Re: [External] Re: tractor hauler a pain to install
headlights. (Gunnells, Brad R)
7. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights. (Stephen Offiler)
8. Re: OT Massey Ferguson Edgewood Maryland (Mitchell Daly)
9. Re: tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:07:45 -0500
From: Aaron Dickinson
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Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
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Our 2008 Silverado is like you say for replacing the bulbs, drivers side battery tray is for axillary battery (not used on ours), and is empty on most trucks
Aaron Dickinson
Mason, Michigan
From: Jim Becker
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
My truck is an ?04 Silverado.? Changing the bulbs is easy.? You pull a pin then the whole light assembly lifts/wiggles out to where you can reach the back side.? I found it hard to believe they made THAT BIG of a step backwards in the redesign.? So I looked at a couple youtube videos on how to change a bulb in a 2011 Silverado.? If you google it, you can find plenty of them.? Nobody needed a 4-post lift to do it.? Here is one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgSlGAVP3_M
The grille is held with some screws a the top and few spring clips at the bottom (reached behind the grille from the top).? The headlamp assembly is then held by 3 bolts, 2 on top and one you reach through the wheel well after pulling the inner fender back.
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If you are just changing the bulbs, not replacing the assembly, none of that is required.? You just reach the bulbs from the back.? The passenger side requires removing the air cleaner.? The driver side may require removing the battery.? The video didn?t say to remove it, but showed it removed.? (maybe to be able to get pictures?).
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One video had a truck with a grille guard that drew no comments in the video.? Maybe an added aftermarket cow catcher or bulldozer blade would add complications.? If so, it is hardly the truck?s fault.
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Sometimes a task is just difficult because the person doing it makes it difficult.
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Jim Becker
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From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 4:14 AM
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Mostly it's because they design for minimum component cost plus minimum assembly labor cost, period.? That's what management tells them to do, whether or not they grew up with greasy fingernails and rebuild engines on weekends, or if they live in their parents' basement and play video games the other 16 hours of the day.
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SO
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:38 PM Cecil Bearden wrote:
There is less than a 1/4 in between the bumper and the grill.? If there was another 1/4in, I could slip a 1/4in? universal socket with a long extension and get the grill out.?? Part of this is due to the cad programs.? The other part is very few engineers have any clue as to how to repair the vehicle they are designing...?? I guess it could be attributed to the absence of high school shop classes........? When I get the barn cleaned out and my 4post lift in there, I will get it raised up and change the lights.
Cecil
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:11:53 -0500
From: Aaron Dickinson
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Steiner tractor parts offer led bulbs for the old 40?s- 50?s vintage headlamps (non-sealed beam). Haven?t tried them yet, but plan too. Friend of mine wanted to use them to relive some of the power load on his generator on his AC WD when plowing snow in the winter, not sure if he has yet or not.
Aaron Dickinson
Mason, Michigan
From: James Peck
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:32 AM
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How about retrofitting LED headlamps to old tractors. How about adding rear lights? How about adding turn signals?
Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer (soffiler at gmail.com); Funny we're talking about headlights.?
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:59:23 -0500
From: Indiana Robinson
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I have not installed them yet but I have LED lights bought for our electric
Club Car golf cart. I bought "driving lights" for the front of it. I wanted
two things, one was low draw and the other was long range so I can find
horses at night when needed. We don't normally ever drive it on the road,
just in an emergency, but I did also buy tail lights for it and a small
amber flashing light bar.
On my old tractors I mostly just need to get the electrical systems all
working. What ever that is like... :-)
.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Aaron Dickinson wrote:
> Steiner tractor parts offer led bulbs for the old 40?s- 50?s vintage
> headlamps (non-sealed beam). Haven?t tried them yet, but plan too. Friend
> of mine wanted to use them to relive some of the power load on his
> generator on his AC WD when plowing snow in the winter, not sure if he has
> yet or not.
>
>
>
> Aaron Dickinson
>
> Mason, Michigan
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> *From: *James Peck
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:32 AM
> *To: *Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
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> *Subject: *Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
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> How about retrofitting LED headlamps to old tractors. How about adding
> rear lights? How about adding turn signals?
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> Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer (soffiler at gmail.com);
> Funny we're talking about headlights.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:20:27 -0600
From: Cecil Bearden
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I ordered a bunch of led lights from Amazon, a dozen each of round and
square ones, some are flood and some are spot.? They were about $6 each
that way. ? I just replace the entire assembly.? My new MTZ/Belarus had
incandescent lights that you had to strike a match to see if they were
working...? The new LED's light up the entire field.?? I had to buy a
$10 bracket to clamp the LED lights onto the New Holland side bar to
replace the New Holland OEM $125 halogen.? I used crimp connectors with
the heat shrink tubing.
Cecil
On 1/16/2020 9:59 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>
> I have not installed them yet but I have LED lights bought for our
> electric Club Car golf cart. I bought "driving lights" for the front
> of it. I wanted two things, one was low draw and the other was long
> range so I can find horses at night when needed. We don't normally
> ever drive it on the road, just in an emergency, but I did also buy
> tail lights for it and a small amber flashing light bar.
> On my old tractors I mostly just need to get the electrical systems
> all working. What ever that is like...? :-)
>
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Aaron Dickinson > > wrote:
>
> Steiner tractor parts offer led bulbs for the old 40?s- 50?s
> vintage headlamps (non-sealed beam). Haven?t tried them yet, but
> plan too. Friend of mine wanted to use them to relive some of the
> power load on his generator on his AC WD when plowing snow in the
> winter, not sure if he has yet or not.
>
> Aaron Dickinson
>
> Mason, Michigan
>
> *From: *James Peck
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:32 AM
> *To: *Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
>
> How about retrofitting LED headlamps to old tractors. How about
> adding rear lights? How about adding turn signals?
>
> Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer
> (soffiler at gmail.com ); Funny
> we're talking about headlights.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:32:04 -0600
From: Cecil Bearden
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Subject: Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
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Our Ranger has a 36in Led light bar on the top.? It makes the best work
light when I need to work on something at night.? It just idles and
keeps the entire work area lit up.? I bought 9 in LEd light bars for the
front of hte 4 wheelers.?? They have dim yellow OEM headlights that are
never focused.?? They hunt coons on the lowest adjustment.? If you bump
the fender they are out of focus again.? The bar clamps to the front
rack and if it is not shining where you want just reach over and rotate
it...
Cecil
On 1/16/2020 9:59 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>
> I have not installed them yet but I have LED lights bought for our
> electric Club Car golf cart. I bought "driving lights" for the front
> of it. I wanted two things, one was low draw and the other was long
> range so I can find horses at night when needed. We don't normally
> ever drive it on the road, just in an emergency, but I did also buy
> tail lights for it and a small amber flashing light bar.
> On my old tractors I mostly just need to get the electrical systems
> all working. What ever that is like...? :-)
>
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Aaron Dickinson > > wrote:
>
> Steiner tractor parts offer led bulbs for the old 40?s- 50?s
> vintage headlamps (non-sealed beam). Haven?t tried them yet, but
> plan too. Friend of mine wanted to use them to relive some of the
> power load on his generator on his AC WD when plowing snow in the
> winter, not sure if he has yet or not.
>
> Aaron Dickinson
>
> Mason, Michigan
>
> *From: *James Peck
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:32 AM
> *To: *Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
>
> How about retrofitting LED headlamps to old tractors. How about
> adding rear lights? How about adding turn signals?
>
> Steve Offiler AT List member Mechanical Engineer
> (soffiler at gmail.com ); Funny
> we're talking about headlights.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 05:52:05 +0000
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Cecil's comment of the light bar as a work light reminded me. A couple years ago I bought a 20" 1200 watt LED light bar that's a combo of flood and spot for $20 on ebay. I bough a 8' stick of 2" PVC pipe and a "T" fitting. Cut a little of the pipe to use at the ends and made a frame similar to a clothes line pole 6' high with the light mounted on it. I have a steel fence post driven in the ground near an area where I split my wood. I just clip the light to the battery of the old Allis as it's running the splitter and I have plenty of light for those early sunset days of winter. Other times I just toss an old car battery on the back of the golf car with the light stuck in the bag well and I have a portable light that really lights things up!
Brad
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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 11:32 PM
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Subject: [External] Re: [AT] tractor hauler a pain to install headlights.
Our Ranger has a 36in Led light bar on the top. It makes the best work light when I need to work on something at night. It just idles and keeps the entire work area lit up. I bought 9 in LEd light bars for the front of hte 4 wheelers. They have dim yellow OEM headlights that are never focused. They hunt coons on the lowest adjustment. If you bump the fender they are out of focus again. The bar clamps to the front rack and if it is not shining where you want just reach over and rotate it...
Cecil
On 1/16/2020 9:59 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
I have not installed them yet but I have LED lights bought for our electric Club Car golf cart. I bought "driving lights" for the front of it. I wanted two things, one was low draw and the other was long range so I can find horses at night when needed. We don't normally ever drive it on the road, just in an emergency, but I did also buy tail lights for it and a small amber flashing light bar.
On my old tractors I mostly just need to get the electrical systems all working. What ever that is like... :-)
.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Aaron Dickinson
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