[AT] OT- Computer help please
cgs
oxygenfarm at gmail.com
Tue Feb 18 11:23:54 PST 2020
4 GB would be plenty.
On 2/18/20 2:20 PM, Mike M wrote:
> Steve, unless I missed it, what size thumb drive did you need?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike M
>
> On 2/18/2020 9:09 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> And... it worked! Just about as simple as it sounded. Laptop just
>> boots straight off USB, automatically, no fuss, no F12 or anything
>> else needed. And fast!
>>
>> One detail, the "USB Image Writer" runs under Linux. The equivalent
>> that runs under Windows is "Etcher"
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:20 AM Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com
>> <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> THANKS! Will check that out!
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:58 AM cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
>> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Linux Mint has an accessory named 'USB Image Writer' which
>> will put the downloaded image of your new operating system
>> onto your USB. A good instruction for Mint is at
>> _https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation/user-guide/Cinnamon/english_18.0.pdf_
>> I use its Mate version whose latest is 19.3 on older computers.
>>
>> On 2/18/20 5:13 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> Yes, I have one SATA connector on the old laptop. I am
>>> hearing several votes in favor of Mint/Mate. Since I don't
>>> have a ton of free time, hoping maybe someone can provide a
>>> decent overview of the process. I'd like to ignore the hard
>>> drive on the laptop and try to boot off a thumb drive as
>>> we've been discussing. Basically treat the laptop as if it
>>> were already dead. I have a fully modern, fully functional
>>> desktop workstation running Win 10 for downloads and
>>> manipulations of the thumb drive. So what are the basic
>>> steps? Download to the workstation and then send files over
>>> to the thumb, or download straight to the thumb? In either
>>> case, how do I make the thumb bootable?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance...
>>> SO
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:53 AM cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Most versions of Linux are free and legal to download;
>>> some charge for a prepared thumb drive and/or a phone
>>> help service.
>>> I have several computers that age which will run the
>>> lighter Linux versions. A new solid state drive (120 GB)
>>> can be found online or at MicroCenter for $25 (be sure
>>> your old iron has SATA connectors!)
>>>
>>> On 2/17/20 5:20 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>> Hi Phil:
>>>>
>>>> I've got a Dell from about 2009 or so, perhaps a
>>>> 3000-series (?), running XP. At the time it was a
>>>> workstation-class laptop, capable of running 3D CAD
>>>> software. I don't use it much anymore, but it
>>>> definitely comes in handy sometimes. Nothing important
>>>> is stored on it. Hard drive has given me a few scares
>>>> over the last several years, but it comes back every
>>>> time (on it's own; I have not done anything heroic).
>>>> This bootable thumb drive thing is intriguing
>>>> because you don't need any hard drive at all with it.
>>>> In your scenario, with the hidden partition, you still
>>>> need a functional hard drive. Plus, there's been
>>>> enough discussion of Linux here on ATIS (and elsewhere)
>>>> that I'm curious.
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 5:08 AM Phil Auten
>>>> <pga2 at basicisp.net <mailto:pga2 at basicisp.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember what brand of PC you have, but
>>>> several manufacturers provide a "hidden partition"
>>>> on the hard drive that can be used to restore the
>>>> PC back to factory settings. On both of my Acer
>>>> laptops the <Alt-F10> keys are pressed together
>>>> during boot. This enables the restore function.
>>>> That would, however, wipe out your files. But if
>>>> there is no other alternative it would be worth a
>>>> try. The laptop I am using to type this suffered a
>>>> hard drive crash a couple of years ago. The hard
>>>> drive was no longer recognized. Using the Acer part
>>>> number, I was able to find the exact same hard
>>>> drive on eBay. I had to completely rebuild my
>>>> setup, but still much less expensive than a new laptop.
>>>>
>>>> If that $35 thumb drive is bootable, that would
>>>> still be a good option for me.
>>>>
>>>> My 2¢
>>>>
>>>> Phil in TX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/2020 5:44 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>>> Hi farmer: When you say no reason to buy
>>>>> anything, I assume you refer to that $35 thumb
>>>>> drive device I mentioned. As I understand it, the
>>>>> thumb drive is bootable, circumventing the hard
>>>>> drive and whatever OS is on the machine. The
>>>>> sales pitch is that it will take a machine that's
>>>>> bricked and bring it back to life. Do you have a
>>>>> way to accomplish that for free?
>>>>>
>>>>> SO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 10:39 PM Indiana Robinson
>>>>> <robinson46176 at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No reason to buy anything, Most distributions
>>>>> of Linux will read Windows files. You can
>>>>> copy, paste move etc. and you can download
>>>>> anything for free. I don't putter with old
>>>>> stuff as much as I used to but I've used
>>>>> Knoppix for such things for many years. I
>>>>> don't know if Windows 10 can read Linux files
>>>>> yet or not but I once read that it was soon to
>>>>> be an option. If you install Linux as a dual
>>>>> boot with Windows you can just access your
>>>>> Windows files without having to reboot back
>>>>> into Windows to find them or work with them.
>>>>> Half of the Linux learning curve is
>>>>> terminology... If you have become comfortable
>>>>> using Android you are half way there. Android
>>>>> is just a mobile (and tablet) version of
>>>>> Linux. Android is built on and running the
>>>>> Linux Kernel but your desktop box won't run
>>>>> Android.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 9:33 AM cgs
>>>>> <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at
>>>>> _http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions_
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/20 7:12 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>>>> Good to hear it's all set. I've been
>>>>>> seeing ad's for a device called "XtraPC"
>>>>>> which, it turns out, is some flavor of
>>>>>> Linux burned onto a thumb drive for
>>>>>> something like $35. You can bring back
>>>>>> most troublesome old machines from the
>>>>>> grave (assuming the problem is hard
>>>>>> drive/boot software, not some hardware
>>>>>> failure of course). What I do not know
>>>>>> is whether you can access your Windows
>>>>>> files under Linux. Curious about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SO
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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