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<font size="+1">4 GB would be plenty.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/18/20 2:20 PM, Mike M wrote:<br>
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Steve, unless I missed it, what size thumb drive did you need?<br>
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Mike M<br>
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<div dir="ltr">And... it worked! Just about as simple as it
sounded. Laptop just boots straight off USB, automatically,
no fuss, no F12 or anything else needed. And fast!
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<div>One detail, the "USB Image Writer" runs under Linux. The
equivalent that runs under Windows is "Etcher"<br>
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<div dir="ltr">THANKS! Will check that out!
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at
6:58 AM cgs <<a href="mailto:oxygenfarm@gmail.com"
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<div> <font size="+1">Linux Mint has an accessory named
'USB Image Writer' which will put the downloaded
image of your new operating system onto your USB. A
good instruction for Mint is at <u><a
href="https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation/user-guide/Cinnamon/english_18.0.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation/user-guide/Cinnamon/english_18.0.pdf</a></u><br>
I use its Mate version whose latest is 19.3 on older
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, I have one SATA connector on
the old laptop. I am hearing several votes in
favor of Mint/Mate. Since I don't have a ton of
free time, hoping maybe someone can provide a
decent overview of the process. I'd like to
ignore the hard drive on the laptop and try to
boot off a thumb drive as we've been
discussing. Basically treat the laptop as if it
were already dead. I have a fully modern, fully
functional desktop workstation running Win 10
for downloads and manipulations of the thumb
drive. So what are the basic steps? Download
to the workstation and then send files over to
the thumb, or download straight to the thumb?
In either case, how do I make the thumb
bootable?</div>
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<div>Thanks in advance...</div>
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17, 2020 at 9:53 AM cgs <<a
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<div> <font size="+1">Most versions of Linux
are free and legal to download; some
charge for a prepared thumb drive and/or a
phone help service.<br>
I have several computers that age which
will run the lighter Linux versions. A new
solid state drive (120 GB) can be found
online or at MicroCenter for $25 (be sure
your old iron has SATA connectors!)<br>
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<div>I've got a Dell from about 2009
or so, perhaps a 3000-series (?),
running XP. At the time it was a
workstation-class laptop, capable of
running 3D CAD software. I don't
use it much anymore, but it
definitely comes in handy
sometimes. Nothing important is
stored on it. Hard drive has given
me a few scares over the last
several years, but it comes back
every time (on it's own; I have not
done anything heroic). This
bootable thumb drive thing is
intriguing because you don't need
any hard drive at all with it. In
your scenario, with the hidden
partition, you still need a
functional hard drive. Plus,
there's been enough discussion of
Linux here on ATIS (and elsewhere)
that I'm curious.</div>
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<div>On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 5:08 AM
Phil Auten <<a
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<p>Hi, Stephen,</p>
<p>I don't remember what brand of
PC you have, but several
manufacturers provide a "hidden
partition" on the hard drive
that can be used to restore the
PC back to factory settings. On
both of my Acer laptops the
<Alt-F10> keys are pressed
together during boot. This
enables the restore function.
That would, however, wipe out
your files. But if there is no
other alternative it would be
worth a try. The laptop I am
using to type this suffered a
hard drive crash a couple of
years ago. The hard drive was no
longer recognized. Using the
Acer part number, I was able to
find the exact same hard drive
on eBay. I had to completely
rebuild my setup, but still much
less expensive than a new
laptop.</p>
<p>If that $35 thumb drive is
bootable, that would still be a
good option for me.</p>
<p>My 2¢</p>
<p>Phil in TX<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi farmer: When
you say no reason to buy
anything, I assume you refer
to that $35 thumb drive device
I mentioned. As I understand
it, the thumb drive is
bootable, circumventing the
hard drive and whatever OS is
on the machine. The sales
pitch is that it will take a
machine that's bricked and
bring it back to life. Do you
have a way to accomplish that
for free?
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<div>No reason to buy
anything, Most
distributions of Linux
will read Windows files.
You can copy, paste move
etc. and you can
download anything for
free. I don't putter
with old stuff as much
as I used to but I've
used Knoppix for such
things for many years. I
don't know if Windows 10
can read Linux files yet
or not but I once read
that it was soon to be
an option. If you
install Linux as a dual
boot with Windows you
can just access your
Windows files without
having to reboot back
into Windows to find
them or work with them.</div>
<div>Half of the Linux
learning curve is
terminology... If you
have become comfortable
using Android you are
half way there. Android
is just a mobile (and
tablet) version of
Linux. Android is built
on and running the Linux
Kernel but your desktop
box won't run Android.</div>
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<div> <font size="+1">Look
at <u><a
href="http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions</a></u></font><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Good
to hear it's all
set. I've been
seeing ad's for a
device called
"XtraPC" which, it
turns out, is some
flavor of Linux
burned onto a
thumb drive for
something like
$35. You can
bring back most
troublesome old
machines from the
grave (assuming
the problem is
hard drive/boot
software, not some
hardware failure
of course). What
I do not know is
whether you can
access your
Windows files
under Linux.
Curious about
that.
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