[AT] OT- Computer help please
cgs
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Tue Feb 18 06:19:35 PST 2020
Mate is a lighter load on older iron: less glamor and glitz.....but of
course we favor old tractors!
On 2/18/20 9:11 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Brad - looks like we both got there within about a minute of each other!
>
> SO
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 9:09 AM <bradloomis at charter.net
> <mailto:bradloomis at charter.net>> wrote:
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> Charlie,
>
> Are the three different versions just matters of appearances? I
> got Cinnamon ‘the most popular’ but I didn’t see differences other
> than appearance. In other words, why Mate?
>
> To Stephen it was dead nuts simple to download and make a thumb
> bootable. I used a program, balenaEtcher which was a three click
> process to turn the thumb and ISO into either a loadable fully
> functional OS or just to run off the thumb to see how it all
> functions. Very cool, very simple. Linux has come a long way. It
> is the applications that have kept me from fully committing.
> Banking, and Outlook still does more than Thunderbird. Granted it
> is getting increasingly unusable :/
>
> Brad
>
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> Linux Mint has an accessory named 'USB Image Writer' which will
> put the downloaded image of your new operating system onto your
> USB. A good instruction for Mint is at
> _https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation/user-guide/Cinnamon/english_18.0.pdf_
> I use its Mate version whose latest is 19.3 on older computers.
>
> On 2/18/20 5:13 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Yes, I have one SATA connector on the old laptop. I am
> hearing several votes in favor of Mint/Mate. Since I don't
> have a ton of free time, hoping maybe someone can provide a
> decent overview of the process. I'd like to ignore the hard
> drive on the laptop and try to boot off a thumb drive as we've
> been discussing. Basically treat the laptop as if it were
> already dead. I have a fully modern, fully functional desktop
> workstation running Win 10 for downloads and manipulations of
> the thumb drive. So what are the basic steps? Download to
> the workstation and then send files over to the thumb, or
> download straight to the thumb? In either case, how do I make
> the thumb bootable?
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> SO
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:53 AM cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Most versions of Linux are free and legal to download;
> some charge for a prepared thumb drive and/or a phone help
> service.
> I have several computers that age which will run the
> lighter Linux versions. A new solid state drive (120 GB)
> can be found online or at MicroCenter for $25 (be sure
> your old iron has SATA connectors!)
>
> On 2/17/20 5:20 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
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> Hi Phil:
>
> I've got a Dell from about 2009 or so, perhaps a
> 3000-series (?), running XP. At the time it was a
> workstation-class laptop, capable of running 3D CAD
> software. I don't use it much anymore, but it
> definitely comes in handy sometimes. Nothing
> important is stored on it. Hard drive has given me a
> few scares over the last several years, but it comes
> back every time (on it's own; I have not done anything
> heroic). This bootable thumb drive thing is
> intriguing because you don't need any hard drive at
> all with it. In your scenario, with the hidden
> partition, you still need a functional hard drive.
> Plus, there's been enough discussion of Linux here on
> ATIS (and elsewhere) that I'm curious.
>
> SO
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 5:08 AM Phil Auten
> <pga2 at basicisp.net <mailto:pga2 at basicisp.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Stephen,
>
> I don't remember what brand of PC you have, but
> several manufacturers provide a "hidden partition"
> on the hard drive that can be used to restore the
> PC back to factory settings. On both of my Acer
> laptops the <Alt-F10> keys are pressed together
> during boot. This enables the restore function.
> That would, however, wipe out your files. But if
> there is no other alternative it would be worth a
> try. The laptop I am using to type this suffered a
> hard drive crash a couple of years ago. The hard
> drive was no longer recognized. Using the Acer
> part number, I was able to find the exact same
> hard drive on eBay. I had to completely rebuild my
> setup, but still much less expensive than a new
> laptop.
>
> If that $35 thumb drive is bootable, that would
> still be a good option for me.
>
> My 2¢
>
> Phil in TX
>
> On 2/16/2020 5:44 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Hi farmer: When you say no reason to buy
> anything, I assume you refer to that $35 thumb
> drive device I mentioned. As I understand it,
> the thumb drive is bootable, circumventing the
> hard drive and whatever OS is on the machine.
> The sales pitch is that it will take a machine
> that's bricked and bring it back to life. Do
> you have a way to accomplish that for free?
>
> SO
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 10:39 PM Indiana
> Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com
> <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> No reason to buy anything, Most
> distributions of Linux will read Windows
> files. You can copy, paste move etc. and
> you can download anything for free. I
> don't putter with old stuff as much as I
> used to but I've used Knoppix for such
> things for many years. I don't know if
> Windows 10 can read Linux files yet or not
> but I once read that it was soon to be an
> option. If you install Linux as a dual
> boot with Windows you can just access your
> Windows files without having to reboot
> back into Windows to find them or work
> with them.
>
> Half of the Linux learning curve is
> terminology... If you have become
> comfortable using Android you are half way
> there. Android is just a mobile (and
> tablet) version of Linux. Android is built
> on and running the Linux Kernel but your
> desktop box won't run Android.
>
> .
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 9:33 AM cgs
> <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Look at
> _http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-data-recovery-tools-for-linux-to-recover-data-or-deleted-partitions_
>
> On 2/15/20 7:12 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Good to hear it's all set. I've
> been seeing ad's for a device
> called "XtraPC" which, it turns
> out, is some flavor of Linux
> burned onto a thumb drive for
> something like $35. You can bring
> back most troublesome old machines
> from the grave (assuming the
> problem is hard drive/boot
> software, not some hardware
> failure of course). What I do not
> know is whether you can access
> your Windows files under Linux.
> Curious about that.
>
> SO
>
>
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