[AT] Linux powered old tractors (Off topic)
cgs
oxygenfarm at gmail.com
Mon Feb 17 13:57:01 PST 2020
Many Linux downloads offer the option to 'install' or 'just try'.
On 2/17/20 1:29 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> It’s been so long since my machines have had a CD-RW drive I forget
> the folks still have them :-) Since you have a CD-RW you can burn a
> bootable CD also. For you that might even be better than messing
> with a stick that may or may not work.
>
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> Another note. At first you’ll just want to burn a “live” CD (the OS
> runs off the CD) rather than an installation disk(will try to install
> rather than run). Linux is generally MUCH faster than windows but you
> may notice some performance concerns since you will be running off a
> CD. After you play around and are comfortable you can then create an
> installation CD and try your hand at a dual boot machine(if you have
> enough disc space).
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>
> Spencer
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> OK, I've got the laptop on my desk now. I had the model wrong.
>> Actually a Dell Precision M4400. Vintage 2009 unchanged ;-)
>>
>> F12 Boot options:
>>
>> CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive
>> Internal HDD (IRRT)
>> Cardbus NIC
>> Onboard NIC
>>
>> But it appears that maybe it will boot from USB. Not sure on that,
>> but here's an observation: when a thumb drive (non-bootable) is
>> plugged in prior to power-up, this prevents booting from the internal
>> hard drive. It just sits there, locked, with some ROM info on screen.
>>
>> Now that I'm this far, I should probably download a Linux flavor onto
>> USB and see what happens next.
>>
>> SO
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>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:22 AM Indiana Robinson
>> <robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> "I've got a Dell from about 2009 or so, perhaps a 3000-series
>> (?), running XP. At the time it was a workstation-class laptop,
>> capable of running 3D CAD software. I don't use it much anymore,
>> but it definitely comes in handy sometimes. Nothing important is
>> stored on it. Hard drive has given me a few scares over the last
>> several years, but it comes back every time (on it's own; I have
>> not done anything heroic). This bootable thumb drive thing is
>> intriguing because you don't need any hard drive at all with it.
>> In your scenario, with the hidden partition, you still need a
>> functional hard drive. Plus, there's been enough discussion of
>> Linux here on ATIS (and elsewhere) that I'm curious.
>> SO"
>>
>>
>>
>> One of the advantages of Linux is that you don't have to put a
>> half zillion hours on your old hard drive cranking and chomping
>> seemingly forever doing defrags on it. The Linux file system
>> makes it generally unnecessary. Only geeks and crazy people ever
>> defrag a Linux hard drive. :-) Now if you dual boot with
>> Windows you probably need to defrag the Windows partition with
>> Windows but it's been a very long time since I ran a dual boot
>> setup and I have forgotten.
>> Since it is a Dell it might have a USB boot option in the BIOS at
>> that vintage but you will need to check.
>> I guess you could do the same thing with a good sized SD card...
>> I've never tried that. I keep a good sized micro SD card in our
>> phones for storage.
>> ****
>> Old tractor reference:
>> I am currently testing and installing Linux in several "OLD"
>> boxes (picked up at yard sales or freebies) trying to pick one to
>> install in a heated/cooled cabinet in the farm shop so I have a
>> bigger screen available to look up tractor details instead of
>> chasing glasses to read my phone. :-)
>>
>> .
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>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> aka "farmer"
>> Central Indiana USA
>> robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>
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