[AT] [External] Re: Covid-19
cgs
oxygenfarm at gmail.com
Sat Aug 15 05:42:34 PDT 2020
Hey, guys, can't we cool off the rhetoric?
Accept that there are good people who refuse/decline to do simple things
which might help prevent big problems.
I wear a mask, because why the hell not? I recently met with an Amish
man who asked why I was carrying a mask, ready to put it on. I told him
I'm healthy but am willing to look like a Halloween character to protect
him.
On 8/14/20 11:40 PM, Mogrits wrote:
> You (and your other list members who will not speak openly,
> apparently) can say what you want. The largest virus in the world is
> much much smaller than the smallest bacteria known. Medical masks can
> block bacteria in some cases but do not block viruses. Virus
> transmission is not the intent of a surgical mask. Don't even begin on
> what these paper masks and cloth masks prevent.
>
> You in essence just called me stupid. Too bad you come to that.
> History will sort this out. You won't like the result when your
> country reopens and covid somehow re-emerges in your country after it
> subsides everywhere else.
> Warren
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:02 PM Tom Martin <tmartin at xtra.co.nz
> <mailto:tmartin at xtra.co.nz>> wrote:
>
> I do think at 2 cents, you've over-valued your opinion.
>
> As someone on the listed mailed me: "Americans suffer from two
> virus, Covid-19 and stupidity."
>
> A poll out today, (Fox New) yielded 74% of Americans desire a
> National Mask Mandate.
>
> Tom
>
>
>> On 14 August 2020 at 15:18 Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mogrits at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Spencer,
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear of your loss and potential future loss of
>> friends and family. I agree with the member that said in so many
>> words "enough is enough, that ATIS is a place to read without all
>> this garbage."
>>
>> That said, I have two cents to offer: Barely any of what we hear
>> about this is true or settled. People have died, but they die of
>> the flu every year. How many months now has the death toll been
>> between 150,000-160,000? It's been a while. The virus has about
>> burned itself out in the USA. It may come back in the winter, or
>> it may not. Who knows. The one certainty is the hysteria about it
>> will CEASE on Nov 3rd regardless of what's happening with caseloads.
>>
>> No offense to the respondent from New Zealand, but theirs is not
>> a response to be emulated. You cannot hide from a virus. Other
>> countries will be well and done with Covid 19 and NZ will become
>> a new hotspot once they relax restrictions.
>>
>> Young folks figured out early on they have negligible risk and
>> rightfully so. That's why they went on Spring Breaks and the
>> other nonsense of youth months ago- it does not infect or at
>> least affect them. So far there is not one case of a public
>> school aged child transmitting to an adult and any youth aged
>> Covid death is suspect at best. Teachers Unions are now holding
>> this Country hostage and by extension it's economy by keeping
>> parents out of work.
>>
>> My personal opinion is if you have so much confidence in the
>> stupid paper or even worse, cloth mask then you wear your mask
>> and protect yourself. These cheap pieces of garbage take droplets
>> which don't travel far due to weight and aerosalize them where
>> they go much farther. Don't tie a bandanna on your face and tell
>> me you are "preventing the spread". That is just silly. Same with
>> any other cloth or paper mask. Nothing but social conditioning
>> for an illness with a high 90% survival rate. Does not minimize
>> the losses but does not justify hysteria.
>>
>> And that's enough for me,
>> Warren
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:18 PM Jim Becker < mr.jebecker at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mr.jebecker at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I thought it was a big upgrade when I got to go from a
>> blackboard to a whiteboard. And that wasn’t an electronic
>> whiteboard, just one that let us use erasable dry markers
>> rather than chalk. I still have my chalk chuck. I use it in
>> the shop to make timing marks easier to see.
>> Jim Becker
>> *From:* Mark Johnson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2020 1:48 PM
>> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Re: Covid-19
>>
>> These days, a teacher, especially at the college level, darn
>> near needs an associate's degree in Electrical Technology to
>> operate all the classroom electronics.
>>
>> I had enough trouble, 10 years back, as an adjunct
>> instructor, just dealing with the electronic whiteboard in a
>> small computer-lab classroom.
>>
>> Mark J
>>
>> On 8/6/2020 1:05 PM, Gunnells, Brad R wrote:
>>> Hahaha..well I'm not sure it's really a thing. It was easier
>>> to say that then to say the installed computers, switchers,
>>> cameras, microphones, etc, etc.
>>> It's surprising how complex some of these systems are.
>>> Multiple monitors, multiple projectors that show different
>>> inputs, software to record it all for later learning.
>>> Brad
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* AT mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on
>>> behalf of Jim Becker mailto:mr.jebecker at gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:41 AM
>>> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>> mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Re: Covid-19
>>> “Podium technology” There is a phrase I never expected to hear.
>>> Jim Becker
>>> *From:* Gunnells, Brad R
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2020 8:29 AM
>>> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] [External] Re: Covid-19
>>> I had a friend call and ask to use my trailer to haul some
>>> furniture for his son going back to college. It's going to
>>> be interesting how this all unfolds.
>>> I work in IT at University of Iowa, so for me this work from
>>> home has been pretty much business as usual so I'm very
>>> lucky in that regard. I work closely with the folks that
>>> maintain the classrooms (due to podium technology) and they
>>> are equipping far more rooms to keep the class sizes down.
>>> In addition some will attend the classroom while others
>>> participate online.
>>> But as John says, the dorms and apartment complexes are
>>> confined spaces. And lets be honest, when Friday night and
>>> the weekend roll around, how many teen and 20-somethings are
>>> going to want to social distance? We saw pictures of Spring
>>> Break in the south. I presume we're going to see an uptick
>>> in our county numbers in early October.
>>> 2020 has been a shit-show of a year, plus it's an election
>>> year on top of it. I'll be so glad to put this year in the
>>> rear view mirror, things have got to get better....right?
>>> Brad
>>>
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