[AT] Covid-19

Dennis Johnson moscowengnr at outlook.com
Tue Aug 4 18:02:22 PDT 2020


I tend to agree that it will “never be completely over”. Think it will be a lot like the flu, with some version coming around each year or so.
Back when I was a kid and we had polio shot, the vaccine was something that most people had some trust in. Today with so many agendas around, not sure what is believable today. I am positive there are more out there trying to make a buck from this than trying to solve the issue. Not sure I can blame anyone from making a buck, until it becomes something that hinders finding a way to make this go away.
I do not see things like the Portland tractor show coming back anytime soon. Hope I am wrong, but not holding my breath.
Personally, our church has not stopped services throughout this whole ordeal, but a few people have not felt comfortable in attending. I attended a wedding a week and a half ago, and heading back to same place for another wedding this weekend. I wear a mask at box stores and other businesses - I think it is a small price to pay to keep them open. 
I think it is great when people can social distance on a few acres. I have a few places like that to go, with some old tractors spread out at many of the locations. I feel for families that live in small apartments and have no place for children except for a few small rooms - right now I pay for phone and limited internet for one such family plus another old lady, but sharing mobile internet quickly pushes usage where it slows everyone on the plan down due to high usage. If school starts online who bill pay for the required bandwidth, (and computers) especially for 1 kid with special needs. Near term does not look good for many people, with the poorest being hit the hardest as usual when things get bad.
I am hoping that old tractor events and other things get back closer to normal soon.

Dennis

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> On Aug 4, 2020, at 8:34 AM, "szabelski at wildblue.net" <szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
> 
> It will never really be over. The virus is here and it will be here forever, it will not disappear. Just like small pox, measles, polio, etc., the viruses exist in or environment and will always be here. We say we have eradicated them, but in reality, we have only created vaccines that protect us from them, we have not eradicated them. The same with the flu, it comes back every year, sometimes it changes and the current vaccines don’t protect us, so we have to get a newer vaccine shot. 
> 
> The issue with COVID is that the planned vaccines will only create anti-bodies to fight the virus. However, studies show that the anti-bodies will only last about three to four months. That would indicate that you would need a booster shot every three to four months. At an anticipated cost of $2,000 per shot, a family of four will have to spend $24,000 to $32,000 a year on shots. Will the insurance companies pay for all this? There have been some people who made it through the virus once, had anti-bodies, and then got the virus again few months later.
> 
> A true vaccine is needed in order to put this issue to bed, and hopefully the current strain of the virus doesn’t evolve and change like the current flu strains do. Another issue is that we are fast tracking the vaccines and won’t know the side affects for some time. I would hate to find out that we are all vaccinated and protected against COVID, but then we all develop heart, liver, kidney, or lung issues at a later date.
> 
> There are two movies that come to mind in this time. One is “Contagine” (spelling?) that follows a world wide pandemic from start to finish, only in reverse order. The other is “I AM LEGEND” that shows what happens when everybody is vaccinated with a vaccine to protect against cancer, and then the world population experience a side affect that basically turns them into a population that can’t tolerate sunlight and becomes somewhat sub-human.
> 
> Our life styles are going to change because of COVID and we are going to have to adapt. Will we have to wear masks for the rest of our lives? Will the hand shake go the way of the dinosaur? Will weddings an other gathering have to be held in certified environmentally controlled facilities? Only time will tell, and I personally don’t think it will be soon. At the beginning COVID was reported to only affecting the old and sick, not the younger population.Then it started to show up in the younger population. Now it’s showing up in children. While the younger population and children may not be affected as bad and aren’t dying by the hundreds, they can still spread the virus. As long as the virus can be spread there will always be someone who contracts it and unfortunately dies.
> 
> My wife and I wear masks, and avoid going anywhere unless it is necessary. We still work with the local food pantry, but have changed how we distribute the food. We don’t go to church on Sundays any more. We aren’t boarding up the windows and doors, but we don’t do anything that we don’t really have to do. We aren’t going to take any chances that we don’t have to since the scientific community is still learning more and more about this virus and they don’t have all the answers figured out yet.
> 
> Sorry if this is long winded. Stay safe.
> 
> Carl
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> From: ustonThomas Mehrkam <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net>
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> Sent: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:42:06 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [AT] Covid-19
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> I cannot understand the Mask Issue.  Yes it is a P.I.A. to wear a mask but that is the only way we can get out now a days with a little safety. I am living in a Rural area and there have been quite a number that refuse to wear masks.  It has gotten a little better the last few weeks.  Businesses can be fined for not enforcing masks inside their businesses.  That has helped a bunch but you still see a few holdouts.
> Sorry about your friend. We have had some family members with Covid-19 but they did not have much of a problem with it and have recovered.
> Will this ever be over.  I want to make an RV trip to Alaska.  Hopefully. I will be able to do that in the next couple of years. I would like to Experience Alaska in the Summer instead of the dead of winter working on Seismic Equipment.   That was interesting but ICE is not my thing.  I was born in Texas and it is too darn cold up there in the winter.
> Stay safe.
> Tom Mehrkam social distancing on 50 acres just outside Waller Tx.
>   On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:57:26 AM CDT, Mattias Kessén <davidbrown950 at gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> I have of course never met Raymond but I sympathize with your loss, you, of course the family and all other that knew him. These are terrible and strange times.
> 
> Med vänlig hälsning
> Mattias Kessén
> Hässelstad Solhöjden 2594 93 Gamleby
> 070-523 59 00
> 
> Den tis 4 aug. 2020 kl 07:14 skrev Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com>:
> 
> It hit home.
> 
> I say this with a heavy heart, as many of you attending Portland may have met him. While at Portland I introduced a few of you to a fellow named Raymond Craft.  He was part of the the local home town Pfafftown contingency that attended the Tri-State show. He attended the Portland show along with Bill Gannoway most years and a few others.  We were all good friends and neighbors and were part of the local Rust And Dust club that sponsored the the local tractor show many of you attended. 
> 
> Raymond died of COVID-19 about 10 days ago. He was one of those “masks are for pussies“ kind of guys. I wonder if his three daughters, three grandkids and wife are thinking the same thing these days.
> 
> I saw him and spoke with him(thank God with a mask on) at a funeral about 15 days before he died.  I miss him already as he was a stand-up guy.  He was also your go-to-guy for Farmall “H” tractors.   I’ll bet his estate now owns about 15-20 of them.
> 
> I hope all y’all are being careful. Sorry to vent but he leaves a hole in my heart.  I’ll miss seeing him at the local breakfast diner and talking tractors.
> 
> Spencer
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