[AT] OT — Tablet computers
cgs
oxygenfarm at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 07:56:16 PDT 2020
You can buy a 120 GB SSD for about $25, a very good investment.
On 4/16/20 9:10 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> That sounds like a good plan, Charlie. You're another strong member
> of the list of people that nudged me into Linux, for sure. I haven't
> committed to spending any money on this rig as yet, but if I want to
> work around a questionable HD, an SSD sounds like the right approach.
> 120GB is a ton for my needs. Mostly doing work on the laptop, so data
> storage is on the work servers. I don't store a lot of data in any
> event... just looked at my iMac (home use) and my 1TB drive has 850GB
> free, the majority being OS and apps, not data.
>
> Thanks again,
> SO
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:24 AM cgs <oxygenfarm at gmail.com
> <mailto:oxygenfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On all my machines I've installed a 120GB SSD for the Mint OS,
> then used the original HD as backup and storage. Very fast!
>
> On 4/16/20 6:52 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Hi Bob:
>>
>> I started here: https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
>>
>> I chose "Mate" based on recommendations from ATIS folks.
>>
>> Once I had the file downloaded, I used balenaEtcher to make a
>> bootable thumb drive: https://www.balena.io/etcher/
>>
>> I plugged said thumb drive into the laptop and bam, I'm looking
>> at Linux. Some machines, not mine, will need you to F12 or
>> something like that during initial startup in order to point to
>> the thumb rather than the HD.
>>
>> It appears you're up and running off the thumb, but I eventually
>> learned it was actually just loading an installable copy of the
>> OS into RAM. You can do what looks like work straight from
>> there, but anything you do is lost on power-down. I eventually
>> decided to install and partition my HD for dual-boot. My HD has
>> been wonky in the past but right now it seems to be fine and
>> dandy and I don't even recall what the problems used to be; might
>> not have been the HD at all. As yet I haven't really customized
>> the install much, so it will be no big deal to go back and start
>> over, reformatting the HD and dumping the XP partition.
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 8:11 PM rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com> <rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> I am going to try it. Where did you get Linux Mint 19.3?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Offiler
>>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Go for it Bob! I am now doing my level best to work from
>>> home as much as possible, which is tough when you're a CNC
>>> guy, they don't travel well ;-) I am just reorganizing work
>>> flow so all the paperwork comes home with me and I'm only in
>>> the shop to be on the floor. At home my iMac becomes the
>>> portal to my Windowns workstation at work, which runs
>>> Solidworks and the management software. It left me wanting
>>> a separate screen for email, spreadsheets, word processing.
>>> I installed Linux Mint 19.3 Mate Edition on a Dell laptop
>>> that was top of the line in 2008, and it works like
>>> a charm. Learning curve is minimal. I'd say I was
>>> productive with it the same day.
>>>
>>> Steve O.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:38 PM rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com> <rbrooks at hvc.rr.com
>>> <mailto:rbrooks at hvc.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> I have two ipads. One older one 2012 or 13 vintage We
>>> bought it for my daighter gor college and a new work
>>> one. The older one is slso slow snd will not run a lot
>>> of the newer programs, excuse me “Apps”. Both ate WiFi
>>> only the new one runs with no issues. The older one is
>>> slow and cluncky. That started with some of the layer
>>> firmware. Sort of like running windows 7
>>>
>>> All the computers here are microsoft. Except for 2 older
>>> laptops that the group has me convinced I should try
>>> linux on
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net
>>> <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Mike,
>>> >
>>> > If your wife’s I-pad is seven years old, she doesn’t
>>> have the latest OS, which is why she’s probably running
>>> slow and getting all the ads. My wife and I both have
>>> newer I-pads, and we don’t have that issue. Our only
>>> issue is that we have to get our internet through a dish
>>> since we can’t get any cable out here.
>>> >
>>> > My wife’s older I-pad had the same issues before we up
>>> greased.
>>> >
>>> > Carl
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
>>> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:29:44 -0400 (EDT)
>>> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet computers
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Spencer, I will look for a straight up I-Pad,
>>> if they do offer
>>> > student discounts, my daughter has an .edu account we
>>> can use. I'm not
>>> > anti Apple per se, but I grew up on Microsoft in
>>> college with Windows
>>> > using version 3.1. As I understand it Apple, even
>>> though superior, would
>>> > not grant licensing for their operating system, so
>>> most software was
>>> > written for Windows. Deep down, I know that Apple is a
>>> better product,
>>> > but at times it doesn't play well with others. The
>>> reason my wife's
>>> > I-pad is so slow is that I cannot find any third party
>>> ad blocking
>>> > software for it. My windows machine is much faster due
>>> to the fact I can
>>> > run several anti ad ware blocking programs on it, and
>>> rarely see an ad.
>>> > I had to try and diagnose a computer problems the
>>> other day and had to
>>> > go back to IE9, to eliminate the browser as the
>>> problem. Holy crap, if I
>>> > had to put up with that many ad's and popups everyday,
>>> I wouldn't use
>>> > the Internet.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Mike M
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/14/2020 4:12 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> >> First off: great gift idea. I’m sure she’ll
>>> appreciate it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Apple keeps a really tight control on prices and
>>> their partners can’t
>>> >> undercut them by much. The few bucks you might save
>>> at Newegg may not
>>> >> be worth it since Apple presale support is pretty
>>> good. In addition if
>>> >> you buy from Apple I understand they take trade-ins.
>>> At least get some
>>> >> credit on your wife’s current iPad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also get the model that is just “iPad“. There is an
>>> iPad Pro, iPad
>>> >> Air, etc. Just the straight up iPad is what you need.
>>> 32 GB model
>>> >> should be plenty as well since she doesn’t use the
>>> camera. Might
>>> >> want to double check her current usage tho to be
>>> sure. She might
>>> >> also start using the camera when she sees how good
>>> the camera has gotten.
>>> >>
>>> >> Connectors have changed quite a bit over the years.
>>> If she has any
>>> >> devices she wants to plug-in you might need to check
>>> on getting an
>>> >> adapter. I guess that can come after the unwrapping.
>>> >>
>>> >> As an aside: I’ve been doing software for a living
>>> for a long time
>>> >> and I have never understood many folks reluctance to
>>> use Apple
>>> >> products. Sure, they are expensive. But they’re
>>> really good products
>>> >> and Apple is more likely than any other vendor to
>>> support their
>>> >> customers, back their product and protect your
>>> privacy. Those are
>>> >> important things to me. Full disclosure: I have a
>>> personal Mac and a
>>> >> work Mac.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good luck!
>>> >>
>>> >> Spencer
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Mike M
>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So I'm an Apple newb, and prefer to stay that way.
>>> I have always
>>> >>> found that I get the most bang for my computer buck
>>> if I buy last
>>> >>> years latest and greatest, when the purist need the
>>> absolute latest
>>> >>> model. She doesn't use the camera, so that's a
>>> feature that I'm not
>>> >>> concerned about. What model has the fastest
>>> processing speed, and
>>> >>> will give me the most bang for my buck?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Mike M
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 4/14/2020 12:44 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> >>>> I made the mistake of looking at Newegg..., now I
>>> want an iPad!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> SO
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM Mike M
>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks guys, I'll check the Apple refurbished
>>> and the Newegg site.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 4/14/2020 1:25 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
>>> >>>>> Hi Mike,
>>> >>>>> Have you ever thought about trying Newegg? I
>>> don't know if
>>> >>>> they sell
>>> >>>>> Apple products, but I'll tell you my story.
>>> >>>>> Back in 2015, I bought an HP probook. One of my
>>> buddies is an
>>> >>>>> assistive tech dealer. Since I am visually
>>> impaired, I thought
>>> >>>> I'd be
>>> >>>>> nice and give him some business, even though I can
>>> go buy a
>>> >>>> computer
>>> >>>>> and set it up myself.
>>> >>>>> Anyway, I used the livin' crap out of it. Jump
>>> ahead to
>>> >>>> December of
>>> >>>>> 2019. Windows 7 was about to go bye bye in
>>> January. I thought
>>> >>>> I would
>>> >>>>> just upgrade the one I had. Wrong.
>>> >>>>> Since I am a power user, I knew a new computer
>>> was in order.
>>> >>>> I needed
>>> >>>>> something powerful, as not only do I do the
>>> basics, but I host an
>>> >>>>> internet radio program, broadcast live events, do
>>> the books for my
>>> >>>>> business, etc. So I called HP. For everything I
>>> needed, the
>>> >>>> thing was
>>> >>>>> going to be 3 grand! I got on Newegg and bought
>>> the same exact
>>> >>>>> computer for $1100. I am very happy with it now. I
>>> would check on
>>> >>>>> Newegg for a tablet like your wife wants. I would
>>> bet they
>>> >>>> have it.
>>> >>>>> Tractor note: I really need to get the Oliver
>>> 770 out and
>>> >>>> ready to go
>>> >>>>> for the rides this summer, but its to cold and
>>> rainy to do so.
>>> >>>>> Good Luck,
>>> >>>>> Tyler Juranek
>>> >>>>> IA
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 4/13/20, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Note, my wife has no idea that this is coming, I
>>> just hear
>>> >>>> her complain
>>> >>>>>> about it enough to know she needs a new one. I
>>> have a love/hate
>>> >>>>>> relationship with Apple, yes they work, but man
>>> are they spendy.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 4/13/2020 10:33 PM, Chuck Bealke wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Five years ago Shirlee bought a 12” iPad. I
>>> thought it too
>>> >>>> big and pricey
>>> >>>>>>> but withheld comment. Good thing. Ever since
>>> she has spent
>>> >>>> a good part of
>>> >>>>>>> her day with it and loves it for all kinds of
>>> things. Even
>>> >>>> lugged it along
>>> >>>>>>> on a round the world trip (ignoring my advice)
>>> and had WiFi
>>> >>>> on ship and
>>> >>>>>>> hotels for most of trip.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil Bearden
>>> >>>> <crbearden at copper.net
>>> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>
>>> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net
>>> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> My experience after 40 years of marriage in
>>> August is just
>>> >>>> pony up the
>>> >>>>>>>> money to let her buy what she wants and don't
>>> try to
>>> >>>> influence her
>>> >>>>>>>> decision. That way if the one she gets is
>>> obsolete or has
>>> >>>> to be changed
>>> >>>>>>>> in the next 6 months It shouldn't be your
>>> fault. Note I said
>>> >>>>>>>> Shouldn't.................
>>> >>>>>>>> Cecil
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Along the same lines your cell carrier might
>>> have specials
>>> >>>> on tablets as
>>> >>>>>>>>> part of phone and/or contract renewal
>>> promotions. You
>>> >>>> might want to look
>>> >>>>>>>>> into that. I am with AT&T and I know I just
>>> heard of a
>>> >>>> deal where if
>>> >>>>>>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal the pad was
>>> free or
>>> >>>> real cheap.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, as is usual with my luck, the deal
>>> comes out
>>> >>>> just a few
>>> >>>>>>>>> months after we traded/renews my wife’s iPhone...
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Claude Kyker
>>> >>>> <claudekyker at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Something to be aware of is whether to get
>>> “WIFI only “
>>> >>>> or get one
>>> >>>>>>>>>> that is capable of using cellular data. WIFI
>>> only is good
>>> >>>> when you have
>>> >>>>>>>>>> access to WIFI, cellular data can be used
>>> anywhere cel
>>> >>>> signal is
>>> >>>>>>>>>> available. Not saying what you need, just
>>> making sure you
>>> >>>> are aware.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Claude
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Mike M
>>> <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to hear, but it
>>> sounds like a
>>> >>>> newer Apple is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> way to go. All their work computers are
>>> Windows based
>>> >>>> and sometimes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> just don't play together well.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike M
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are not many choices.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Google has decided that androids are phones
>>> and so the
>>> >>>> tablet
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of a not quite there
>>> feel. They
>>> >>>> work, but there
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are rough edges depending on how the specific
>>> >>>> manufacturer supports
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay as they have
>>> budget). Google
>>> >>>> wants to push the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> chrome platform but that is targeted at
>>> laptops and low
>>> >>>> powered
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and so again as a tablet it can
>>> work but might
>>> >>>> be rough
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> edges.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard good things about the Microsoft
>>> surface
>>> >>>> line, it again is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a laptop but reports are it is an okay
>>> tablet when you
>>> >>>> detach the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all agree though, a lot
>>> of the
>>> >>>> hardware lacks
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> robustness and will break if you look at it
>>> wrong. Pay
>>> >>>> extra for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> business class and get a good brand.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are also Linux tablets, but even the
>>> enthusiasts
>>> >>>> admit they are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not ready for real use. This might actually
>>> change this
>>> >>>> year, we will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad is the tablet most
>>> people with a
>>> >>>> tablet get.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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