[AT] OT — Tablet computers
Stephen Offiler
soffiler at gmail.com
Wed Apr 15 04:33:52 PDT 2020
Short answer, cellular capability and memory.
SO
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:39 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> OK, so here is what is available to me through my daughter. Why the wild
> differences in prices? It appears that they all have the same Chipset and
> Co-processor, am I missing something?
>
> https://computershowcase.umich.edu/category.php?cat=4
>
> Thank-you,
> Mike M
>
>
>
> On 4/14/2020 5:46 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> Go for it Bob! I am now doing my level best to work from home as much as
> possible, which is tough when you're a CNC guy, they don't travel well ;-)
> I am just reorganizing work flow so all the paperwork comes home with me
> and I'm only in the shop to be on the floor. At home my iMac becomes the
> portal to my Windowns workstation at work, which runs Solidworks and the
> management software. It left me wanting a separate screen for email,
> spreadsheets, word processing. I installed Linux Mint 19.3 Mate Edition on
> a Dell laptop that was top of the line in 2008, and it works like a charm.
> Learning curve is minimal. I'd say I was productive with it the same day.
>
> Steve O.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:38 PM rbrooks at hvc.rr.com <rbrooks at hvc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike
>>
>> I have two ipads. One older one 2012 or 13 vintage We bought it for my
>> daighter gor college and a new work one. The older one is slso slow snd
>> will not run a lot of the newer programs, excuse me “Apps”. Both ate WiFi
>> only the new one runs with no issues. The older one is slow and cluncky.
>> That started with some of the layer firmware. Sort of like running windows 7
>>
>> All the computers here are microsoft. Except for 2 older laptops that the
>> group has me convinced I should try linux on
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > If your wife’s I-pad is seven years old, she doesn’t have the latest
>> OS, which is why she’s probably running slow and getting all the ads. My
>> wife and I both have newer I-pads, and we don’t have that issue. Our only
>> issue is that we have to get our internet through a dish since we can’t get
>> any cable out here.
>> >
>> > My wife’s older I-pad had the same issues before we up greased.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:29:44 -0400 (EDT)
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT — Tablet computers
>> >
>> > Thanks Spencer, I will look for a straight up I-Pad, if they do offer
>> > student discounts, my daughter has an .edu account we can use. I'm not
>> > anti Apple per se, but I grew up on Microsoft in college with Windows
>> > using version 3.1. As I understand it Apple, even though superior, would
>> > not grant licensing for their operating system, so most software was
>> > written for Windows. Deep down, I know that Apple is a better product,
>> > but at times it doesn't play well with others. The reason my wife's
>> > I-pad is so slow is that I cannot find any third party ad blocking
>> > software for it. My windows machine is much faster due to the fact I can
>> > run several anti ad ware blocking programs on it, and rarely see an ad.
>> > I had to try and diagnose a computer problems the other day and had to
>> > go back to IE9, to eliminate the browser as the problem. Holy crap, if I
>> > had to put up with that many ad's and popups everyday, I wouldn't use
>> > the Internet.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike M
>> >
>> >> On 4/14/2020 4:12 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> >> First off: great gift idea. I’m sure she’ll appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >> Apple keeps a really tight control on prices and their partners can’t
>> >> undercut them by much. The few bucks you might save at Newegg may not
>> >> be worth it since Apple presale support is pretty good. In addition if
>> >> you buy from Apple I understand they take trade-ins. At least get some
>> >> credit on your wife’s current iPad.
>> >>
>> >> Also get the model that is just “iPad“. There is an iPad Pro, iPad
>> >> Air, etc. Just the straight up iPad is what you need. 32 GB model
>> >> should be plenty as well since she doesn’t use the camera. Might
>> >> want to double check her current usage tho to be sure. She might
>> >> also start using the camera when she sees how good the camera has
>> gotten.
>> >>
>> >> Connectors have changed quite a bit over the years. If she has any
>> >> devices she wants to plug-in you might need to check on getting an
>> >> adapter. I guess that can come after the unwrapping.
>> >>
>> >> As an aside: I’ve been doing software for a living for a long time
>> >> and I have never understood many folks reluctance to use Apple
>> >> products. Sure, they are expensive. But they’re really good products
>> >> and Apple is more likely than any other vendor to support their
>> >> customers, back their product and protect your privacy. Those are
>> >> important things to me. Full disclosure: I have a personal Mac and a
>> >> work Mac.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>
>> >> Spencer
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> So I'm an Apple newb, and prefer to stay that way. I have always
>> >>> found that I get the most bang for my computer buck if I buy last
>> >>> years latest and greatest, when the purist need the absolute latest
>> >>> model. She doesn't use the camera, so that's a feature that I'm not
>> >>> concerned about. What model has the fastest processing speed, and
>> >>> will give me the most bang for my buck?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Mike M
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4/14/2020 12:44 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> >>>> I made the mistake of looking at Newegg..., now I want an iPad!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> SO
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:24 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks guys, I'll check the Apple refurbished and the Newegg site.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike M
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 4/14/2020 1:25 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Mike,
>> >>>>> Have you ever thought about trying Newegg? I don't know if
>> >>>> they sell
>> >>>>> Apple products, but I'll tell you my story.
>> >>>>> Back in 2015, I bought an HP probook. One of my buddies is an
>> >>>>> assistive tech dealer. Since I am visually impaired, I thought
>> >>>> I'd be
>> >>>>> nice and give him some business, even though I can go buy a
>> >>>> computer
>> >>>>> and set it up myself.
>> >>>>> Anyway, I used the livin' crap out of it. Jump ahead to
>> >>>> December of
>> >>>>> 2019. Windows 7 was about to go bye bye in January. I thought
>> >>>> I would
>> >>>>> just upgrade the one I had. Wrong.
>> >>>>> Since I am a power user, I knew a new computer was in order.
>> >>>> I needed
>> >>>>> something powerful, as not only do I do the basics, but I host an
>> >>>>> internet radio program, broadcast live events, do the books for my
>> >>>>> business, etc. So I called HP. For everything I needed, the
>> >>>> thing was
>> >>>>> going to be 3 grand! I got on Newegg and bought the same exact
>> >>>>> computer for $1100. I am very happy with it now. I would check on
>> >>>>> Newegg for a tablet like your wife wants. I would bet they
>> >>>> have it.
>> >>>>> Tractor note: I really need to get the Oliver 770 out and
>> >>>> ready to go
>> >>>>> for the rides this summer, but its to cold and rainy to do so.
>> >>>>> Good Luck,
>> >>>>> Tyler Juranek
>> >>>>> IA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 4/13/20, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Note, my wife has no idea that this is coming, I just hear
>> >>>> her complain
>> >>>>>> about it enough to know she needs a new one. I have a love/hate
>> >>>>>> relationship with Apple, yes they work, but man are they spendy.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mike M
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 4/13/2020 10:33 PM, Chuck Bealke wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Five years ago Shirlee bought a 12” iPad. I thought it too
>> >>>> big and pricey
>> >>>>>>> but withheld comment. Good thing. Ever since she has spent
>> >>>> a good part of
>> >>>>>>> her day with it and loves it for all kinds of things. Even
>> >>>> lugged it along
>> >>>>>>> on a round the world trip (ignoring my advice) and had WiFi
>> >>>> on ship and
>> >>>>>>> hotels for most of trip.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cecil Bearden
>> >>>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> My experience after 40 years of marriage in August is just
>> >>>> pony up the
>> >>>>>>>> money to let her buy what she wants and don't try to
>> >>>> influence her
>> >>>>>>>> decision. That way if the one she gets is obsolete or has
>> >>>> to be changed
>> >>>>>>>> in the next 6 months It shouldn't be your fault. Note I said
>> >>>>>>>> Shouldn't.................
>> >>>>>>>> Cecil
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 5:37 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Along the same lines your cell carrier might have specials
>> >>>> on tablets as
>> >>>>>>>>> part of phone and/or contract renewal promotions. You
>> >>>> might want to look
>> >>>>>>>>> into that. I am with AT&T and I know I just heard of a
>> >>>> deal where if
>> >>>>>>>>> you buy an iPhone at your renewal the pad was free or
>> >>>> real cheap.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, as is usual with my luck, the deal comes out
>> >>>> just a few
>> >>>>>>>>> months after we traded/renews my wife’s iPhone...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Claude Kyker
>> >>>> <claudekyker at gmail.com <mailto:claudekyker at gmail.com>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Something to be aware of is whether to get “WIFI only “
>> >>>> or get one
>> >>>>>>>>>> that is capable of using cellular data. WIFI only is good
>> >>>> when you have
>> >>>>>>>>>> access to WIFI, cellular data can be used anywhere cel
>> >>>> signal is
>> >>>>>>>>>> available. Not saying what you need, just making sure you
>> >>>> are aware.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Claude
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>> >>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ugh, not what I wanted to hear, but it sounds like a
>> >>>> newer Apple is
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> way to go. All their work computers are Windows based
>> >>>> and sometimes
>> >>>>>>>>>>> they
>> >>>>>>>>>>> just don't play together well.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike M
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2020 4:08 PM, Henry Miller wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are not many choices.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Google has decided that androids are phones and so the
>> >>>> tablet
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> offerings have a bit of a not quite there feel. They
>> >>>> work, but there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are rough edges depending on how the specific
>> >>>> manufacturer supports
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it (Samsung might okay as they have budget). Google
>> >>>> wants to push the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> chrome platform but that is targeted at laptops and low
>> >>>> powered
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and so again as a tablet it can work but might
>> >>>> be rough
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> edges.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've heard good things about the Microsoft surface
>> >>>> line, it again is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a laptop but reports are it is an okay tablet when you
>> >>>> detach the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. Reports all agree though, a lot of the
>> >>>> hardware lacks
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> robustness and will break if you look at it wrong. Pay
>> >>>> extra for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> business class and get a good brand.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are also Linux tablets, but even the enthusiasts
>> >>>> admit they are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not ready for real use. This might actually change this
>> >>>> year, we will
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which is why the iPad is the tablet most people with a
>> >>>> tablet get.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing else is there.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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