[AT] Agricultural Equipment Diagnostic Technicians

[Cecil Bearden]

I got it..
Cecil
Mike, you have reiterated what I said a few weeks back.  The schools do 
not teach life skills anymore.   A couple of counties over East a school 
district had a Mom whose kids wanted a 4H club.  They convinced the 
Superintendent to allow them to have a 4H club.  The first  meeting to 
determine interest they expected maybe 8 to 10 kids.  They had 35.  Now 
the club has 55 regular members.  $H is not just agriculture, and 
raising calves or sheep, it teaches those kids life skills in a group 
situation..   After raising sheep in addition to cattle for the last 20 
years, I firmly believe if a kid can raise a lamb to show in a ring, 
they can work with nearly anyone!   I also believe if all kids had to 
care for a couple of bottle baby lambs and raise them, they would be 
much better parents later on...

The old high school shop classes both wood and metal and auto gave the 
students a chance to see if they wanted to do something besides sit 
behind a desk.   I was on a construction site with carpenters from as 
soon as I was out of diapers until I started school.  Then in the 
summers I was back on the site.  My Uncle was an ex Seabee and a 
carpenter.  My Dad worked as a carpenter while he went to college after 
I was born and my mother worked.  When I was 13, I started working in a 
tractor shop about a mile away from home.  I rode my Bike there.  I was 
in auto shop in high school. If my folks had not threatened to throw me 
out, I would have gone through diesel school at OSU tech in Okmulgee, 
and majored in diesel injection.  I really believe I would have had my 
own shop...   I still remember my mothers words "You just want to be an 
old grease monkey!"

Just my $0.02

Cecil

On 9/15/2019 2:58 PM, Mike M wrote:
> Yes James, usually 50-55 hours. There are weeks he will put in 80, but
> it's his choice. My main point is the trades have been neglected in high
> schools that push everyone towards college, when some are kids are
> better suited to learning by watching and helping. He's done well
> enough, that he can comfortably retire at 50.
>
> Mike M
>
> PS - something has changed and my replies are only going to the original
> poster.
>
> On 9/15/2019 9:05 AM, James Peck wrote:
>> He is working some overtime.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 4:34 PM
>> To: James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Agricultural Equipment Diagnostic Technicians
>>
>> A good friend of mine went through high school, then into an 
>> apprenticeship program for pipe fitting and  HVAC, he's now an 
>> Unlimited Tonnage Journeyman pipe fitter and makes well into the 6 
>> figures without having to take any of the BS college courses.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 9/14/2019 9:35 AM, James Peck wrote:
>>> No mention of tractor mechanics, but this report seconds Cecil's 
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> https://opportunityamericaonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/OA_App
>>> renticeshipReport_2019.pdf
>>>
>>> [cecil] <snip> Personally I think the apprenticeship programs are the
>>> way to go.   <snip> _______________________________________________
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