[AT] New Question

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Wed Oct 30 13:30:44 PDT 2019


I had a brand new diaphram pump with a 3hp Briggs engine.  Needed it to 
pump out a valve box.  used regular unleaded gas.  Drained the carb, ran 
it dry, forgot about the tank.  a month later the tank was gone, the 
carb was a pile of white powder inside and the parts cost was over 
$150.00   Replaced it with a $60 Harbor freight engine that starts on 
the second pull...
Cecil

On 10/30/2019 3:17 PM, magreer67 wrote:
> Cecil,
> You are right on the money about gas. Ethanol is in most passenger car 
> gasoline and it WILL give you problems in small engines. I only use 
> ethanol-free "Rec 90" gas that we can buy here and I don't have 
> problems with these small engines. It is expensive - almost $4 a 
> gallon. In addition to all my Stihl chainsaws, I have a Stihl brush 
> cutter, a Stihl string trimmer, a Stihl blower, and a Stihl pole saw. 
> Feed them right and they will work hard for you. Feed them garbage gas 
> with ethanol, they WILL fail, it's just a matter of when.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
> Date: 10/30/19 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] New Question
>
> I have 3 Poulan 18in pro series saws.  Bought on sale at Tractor 
> Supply.  My Mexican friends used them to cut out 1/4 mile of hackberry 
> and Cedar trees grown in a fence.  I had 6 chains that I kept sharp.  
> I stayed busy sharpening chains.  Ran 2 of the saws for 3 days 8 hrs / 
> day hard.  I can still pull those saws off the shelf, gas them up and 
> in 3 pulls they are running and ready to go.   I have a Stihl top 
> handle and an Echo that I keep for personal use, but the go-to saws 
> are the Poulan.  I had 3 survey crews running a few years back.  We 
> had stihl, Echo, Poulan and Red Max saws.  Those Cheap Poulan Saws 
> just kept on running.  I think the 2 biggest problems with a chain saw 
> is a sharp chain and keeping the carburetor dry. Never use ethanol 
> gas, use only the highest grade non ethanol. and run the carb dry if 
> it is going to set for more than a week.
>
> Cecil
>
> On 10/30/2019 2:00 PM, magreer67 wrote:
>> Wow! I run chain saws quite a bit and my experience is nothing like 
>> that. I cut 8-10 cords of firewood a year plus another 3-5 full days 
>> of cutting to maintain a 155 acre wood lot and some logging roads. 
>> Some of that cutting ends up as logs I drag out to have sawed into 
>> lumber and the rest just gets moved off the logging roads and nature 
>> eventually reclaims it. I mostly use commercial grade Stihl saws and 
>> they never let me down. Buy once, cry once. I have an 026 Stihl (18") 
>> that was my Grandpa's firewood saw. Also have an 009L (14") that gets 
>> used for trimming and days when I'm cutting grapevines all day, an 
>> MS260 (18"), an 038 Super (24"), and an 046 Magnum (32") I 
>> occasionally drag out if I need to cut something big. The MS260 is 
>> the one I use most. Somewhere I still have an 028 Wood Boss that was 
>> my first saw. I got it half worn out from a co-worker about 30 years 
>> ago and ran it for a long time. A wrist pin retainer clip let loose 
>> about 10 years ago and locked it up. I have another piston and big 
>> bore cylinder for it but need to find a new ring set and put it back 
>> together one day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Jim Becker <mr.jebecker at gmail.com>
>> Date: 10/30/19 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] New Question
>>
>> You got it half right with "chain".  My vote goes for chain saw.  
>> They are
>> heavy, noisy, dangerous, the exhaust is usually blowing back on you, and
>> they throw saw dust everywhere.  It was almost guaranteed they would 
>> have
>> some sort of starting/running issue on every job.  Besides all that, 
>> they
>> are impossible to run left-handed.  I know, some of you are going to 
>> say "My
>> Xyz brand saw is great."  Fine if you had good luck with one. But 
>> there has
>> been somebody to say how great nearly every brand of miserable saw I 
>> have
>> been around is.  Maybe some are just less terrible.
>>
>> I was glad we finally cut down every black locust tree on the farm 
>> and had
>> to start buying fence posts.
>>
>> Jim Becker
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spencer Yost
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:38 AM
>> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] New Question
>>
>> Chain harrow.  Used it during reseeding a hay field and it was great.
>> Intended to use it in established pastures based on advice from a good
>> friend that raised cattle.  Turned out to be less than useful and 
>> that chore
>> seemed to be a fuel burner without benefits.
>> Still have it though....
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:13 AM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
>> >
>> > We don’t have a really large garden, but we never had an issue using
>> > spring tooth harrows like you indicate.
>> >
>> > I have three sets that I would gang together, two side by side, and 
>> the
>> > third one centered behind them. Pulled them with our 50 Cub. I got 
>> them
>> > free, along with some other free implements when I purchased our Cub.
>> >
>> > I would set them for a shallow cut and make my first pass. Then I 
>> would
>> > set them about half way and make a second pass. Then a third pass with
>> > them set all the way down. I would drag them in multiple directions to
>> > break up the clay as much as possible.
>> >
>> > I no longer use them since I started to amend the soil and went out 
>> and
>> > brought a three point rototiller that I put on the 42 H.
>> >
>> > We have semi heavy to heavy clay in our area, but it never clogged the
>> > rototiller to the point where I had to stop and clean it out. The
>> > rototiller will have some clay packed in the housing, but I just 
>> clean it
>> > out when I’m done.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Greg Hass <ghass at m3isp.com>
>> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> > Sent: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:05:47 -0400 (EDT)
>> > Subject: [AT] New Question
>> >
>> > Have been tossing this around for quite a while and would like list
>> > opinions from those who have farmed or been around the farm.  What
>> > machines or implements are you glad to see disappear or be used much
>> > less than before? While I could list several the one that stands out in
>> > my mind by far is the spring tooth harrow. While still being used some,
>> > and while they do a real good job of leveling, they were also a real
>> > pain in the a$$. Growing up into my 20's thats all we had and all they
>> > did was plug.  We had probably the worst brand ever made, a Case
>> > harrow.  It had 2 runners between every section and if it saw a
>> > cornstalk 50 feet away it would start plugging before you got 
>> there.  In
>> > either corn ground or sod the results were the same.  We always worked
>> > our fields what we called double kitty corner. In a 20 acre field, we
>> > would have to stop at all four corners and unplug the harrow by 
>> hand. We
>> > used a IH Super C and 3 section harrow (8 foot) and if not plowing we
>> > had a four section we pulled with an IH 350. In later years we 
>> bought an
>> > IH 401 harrow and 3 section equaled 12 feet and pulled it with an IH
>> > 504.  We though we had the world by the tail as it plugged much 
>> less but
>> > that was soon to end.  That harrow did not have replaceable ends; the
>> > next years model did, but my dad being stupidly cheap would not get new
>> > teeth but cut an extra notch for the handle allowing it to dig deeper
>> > but with the tooth being shorter, cut the clearance making it plug as
>> > bad as the old Case harrow.  For the past many years we have used a
>> > field cultivator which almost never plugs and I have no desire to go
>> > back to a spring tooth harrow.
>> >       Greg Hass
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