[AT] tractor hauling truck now electric power
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Wed Nov 27 15:07:22 PST 2019
I am a believer in Electric power. Many years ago when we had something
like 14 small engines to keep running on various sprayers, elevators,
augers, etc. before the advent of ethanol gas. We still had problems
with carburetors and ignition..... I had a source of good used 3 phase
motors cheap. We found 2 old military 3phase diesel generators and kept
them running and exercised. Our engine problems were eliminated. a 5hp
3ph electric motor will run a 40ft auger much better than those old cast
iron 10hp Briggs engines. A 3hp electric motor would run a hypro
sprayer pump great...
Cecil
On 11/27/2019 10:39 AM, Carl Baker or Kim Lessor wrote:
> Stephen wrote: "Anyway, you can keep your electric cars (and now
> trucks) until they cost on par with a petrol-fueled equivalent, and
> recharge more rapidly than they do now, and charging stations are
> everywhere. I refuse to accept less convenience and less utility for
> higher cost."
>
> So, umm - now? Tesla's truck is $10k less than a comparable F-150.
> Chevrolet's Bolt (car) is about $10k more than a comparable gas car.
> My Nissan Leaf charges in the 5 seconds it takes me to plug it in when
> I get home. I don't have to stand there and watch it charge. I also
> refuse to accept less convenience and less utility for higher cost.
> Which is why I'm converting my fleet from gas to electric as quickly
> as I can afford it (not very quickly). Honestly, I'm keen to convert
> my old Ford tractor to electric. I'm tired of schlepping gas from the
> gas station for it. Or roading it to the gas station to fill it up.
> Which I should probably do today - a storm is expected....
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 6:13 PM Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com
> <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I am sort of a Luddite. Well, at least, I'm the opposite of an
> "early adopter" consumer. Late adopter I guess?
>
> The idea of electric vehicles gives me range anxiety. That's a
> real thing, a concept explored by GM with their EV-1. Remember
> that electric car? They built 1000 and leased them so they could
> get them all back. It was a giant engineering experiment that I
> found brilliant. But a whole bunch of environmentalists who
> didn't grasp that concept hate GM to this day because they
> couldn't keep their EV-1. I guess they didn't read the fine print.
>
> Anyway, you can keep your electric cars (and now trucks) until
> they cost on par with a petrol-fueled equivalent, and recharge
> more rapidly than they do now, and charging stations are
> everywhere. I refuse to accept less convenience and less utility
> for higher cost.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:42 PM Cecil Bearden
> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
> That trip range does not take into account running the air
> conditioner, heater, defroster, Wipers and lights.... My wife
> & I bought some Dewalt electric heated coats on sale a couple
> of years ago. They were just barely more than the regular
> price of a battery and included a 12 and 115 volt charger and
> an adapter for USB to charge your phone. They sold out along
> the east Coast for the folks using them to commute and could
> not keep warm in the Chevy Volt and Toyota Prius when running
> lights heater defroster and wipers in snow while commuting to
> work..
> When that cost per mile is figured in does it take into
> consideration the battery life and the replacement cost. I
> talked to a Prius owner who had a 2 yr old one on the original
> battery and was looking to trade it in for a new one as the
> battery cost was a small fortune...
> On another note, my Polaris Ranger 1000cc with EFI is the
> hardest thing on the place to start when the temp is under
> 45deg. After the dealer tuning it up and changing oil, it
> still is the hardest thing to start on the planet... I
> bought a couple of plugs this afternoon to make sure the
> dealer changed them....
> I wish I had bought a Kubota Diesel with A/C. The more I deal
> with gasoline engines the more I want to convert them to
> propane or diesel. I'm thinking seriously of adapting my
> "new" skid steer to propane. It has a VG4d Wisconsin. I have
> an air cooled heat exchanger for up to 60hp. The tank would
> add counterbalance weight.
> Cecil
>
> On 11/22/2019 5:44 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>> I just wonder how many fully charged cell phones it will take
>> to "limp it home" if it gets totally discharged. 😀
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM Stephen Offiler
>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> LOL! Agreed. When I saw the "Tri-motor AWD" with sub
>> 2.9 sec 0-60 and a claimed 500 mi range, I was thinking
>> that's got to be a huge battery and expected Model-S
>> level pricetag.
>>
>> My earlier comment assumes we have more than a few List
>> members willing to voice an opinion on newfangled
>> electric vehicle technology.
>>
>> SO
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM Spencer Yost
>> <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>>
>> What? Everyone needs a tractor hauling truck.
>> Even if it’s too fancy for its own good, is super
>> ugly, has terrible range, and cost too much. :-)
>>
>> Actually the cost was a tad less than I expected. I
>> did notice the three engine/tow ratings were designed
>> to approximate a half ton, three-quarter ton, and 1
>> ton trucks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Stephen Offiler
>>> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh boy... here we go... and Spencer started it!
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:13 AM Spencer Yost
>>> <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Super ugly:
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
>>>
>>> But I’m sure sometime in the next 4 to 6 years
>>> we will see one in Portland with an antique
>>> tractor behind it.
>>>
>>> I’m sure the range will stink while towing; at
>>> least at first. But I’ll bet towing with
>>> electric motors would probably be pretty
>>> awesome. Would not mind trying it once.
>>>
>>> Spencer
>>>
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