[AT] tractor hauling truck

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Wed Nov 27 05:27:57 PST 2019


I got an email yesterday saying that they already had orders for over 
180K of those ugly electric "pickups"...
Cecil

On 11/27/2019 5:17 AM, Mattias Kessén wrote:
> I can't even imagine how someone even can come up with the idea of 
> something that ugly.
>
> Reminds me of when Honda were gonna begin marketing the new Honda 
> Fitta. Later called Jazz in Europe and (I believe) Fit in the rest of 
> the world. They've even made brochures with the slogan "Small on the 
> outside, big on the inside". Problem is that fitta in swedish means 
> cunt. All scandinavians and many people in northern Europe knows that.
> I think you all can imagine how many funny "car tests" that were made 
> from that... I was takin' the .... for a ride. It was a pleasant... etc.
>
> Med vänlig hälsning
>
> Mattias Kessén
>
> Hässelstad Solhöjden 2
> 594 93 Gamleby
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> 070-523 59 00
>
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> Den lör 23 nov. 2019 kl 03:13 skrev Stephen Offiler 
> <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>>:
>
>     I am sort of a Luddite.  Well, at least, I'm the opposite of an
>     "early adopter" consumer. Late adopter I guess?
>
>     The idea of electric vehicles gives me range anxiety. That's a
>     real thing, a concept explored by GM with their EV-1.  Remember
>     that electric car?  They built 1000 and leased them so they could
>     get them all back. It was a giant engineering experiment that I
>     found brilliant.   But a whole bunch of environmentalists who
>     didn't grasp that concept hate GM to this day because they
>     couldn't keep their EV-1.  I guess they didn't read the fine print.
>
>     Anyway, you can keep your electric cars (and now trucks) until
>     they cost on par with a petrol-fueled equivalent, and recharge
>     more rapidly than they do now, and charging stations are
>     everywhere.  I refuse to accept less convenience and less utility
>     for higher cost.
>
>     SO
>
>
>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:42 PM Cecil Bearden
>     <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
>         That trip range does not take into account running the air
>         conditioner, heater, defroster, Wipers and lights....  My wife
>         & I bought some Dewalt electric heated coats on sale a couple
>         of years ago. They were just barely more than the regular
>         price of a battery and included a 12 and 115 volt charger and
>         an adapter for USB to charge your phone.  They sold out along
>         the east Coast for the folks using them to commute and could
>         not keep warm in the Chevy Volt and Toyota Prius when running
>         lights heater defroster and wipers in snow while commuting to
>         work..
>         When that cost per mile is figured in does it take into
>         consideration the battery life and the replacement cost.  I
>         talked to a Prius owner who had a 2 yr old one on the original
>         battery and was looking to trade it in for a new one as the
>         battery cost was a small fortune...
>         On another note, my Polaris Ranger 1000cc with EFI is the
>         hardest thing on the place to start when the temp is under
>         45deg.    After the dealer tuning it up and changing oil, it
>         still is the hardest thing to start on the planet...    I
>         bought a couple of plugs this afternoon to make sure the
>         dealer changed them....
>         I wish I had bought a Kubota Diesel with A/C.  The more I deal
>         with gasoline engines the more I want to convert them to
>         propane or diesel.   I'm thinking seriously of adapting my
>         "new" skid steer to propane. It has a VG4d Wisconsin.  I have
>         an air cooled heat exchanger for up to 60hp.  The tank would
>         add counterbalance weight.
>         Cecil
>
>         On 11/22/2019 5:44 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>         I just wonder how many fully charged cell phones it will take
>>         to "limp it home" if it gets totally discharged.  😀
>>
>>         .
>>
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>>         On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM Stephen Offiler
>>         <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>             LOL!  Agreed.  When I saw the "Tri-motor AWD" with sub
>>             2.9 sec 0-60 and a claimed 500 mi range, I was thinking
>>             that's got to be a huge battery and expected Model-S
>>             level pricetag.
>>
>>             My earlier comment assumes we have more than a few List
>>             members willing to voice an opinion on newfangled
>>             electric vehicle technology.
>>
>>             SO
>>
>>             On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM Spencer Yost
>>             <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 What?   Everyone needs a tractor hauling truck.  
>>                 Even if it’s too fancy for its own good, is super
>>                 ugly, has terrible range, and cost too much. :-)
>>
>>                 Actually the cost was a tad less than I expected.   I
>>                 did notice the three engine/tow ratings were designed
>>                 to approximate a half ton, three-quarter ton, and 1
>>                 ton trucks.
>>
>>                 Sent from my iPhone
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>>>                 On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Stephen Offiler
>>>                 <soffiler at gmail.com <mailto:soffiler at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 
>>>                 Oh boy... here we go... and Spencer started it!
>>>
>>>                 SO
>>>
>>>                 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:13 AM Spencer Yost
>>>                 <spencer at rdfarms.com <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>>
>>>                 wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Super ugly:
>>>
>>>                     https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
>>>
>>>                     But I’m sure sometime in the next 4 to 6 years
>>>                     we will see one in Portland with an antique
>>>                     tractor behind it.
>>>
>>>                     I’m sure the range will stink while towing; at
>>>                     least at first. But I’ll bet towing with
>>>                     electric motors would probably be pretty
>>>                     awesome. Would not mind trying it once.
>>>
>>>                     Spencer
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>>         Francis Robinson
>>         aka "farmer"
>>         Central Indiana USA
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