[AT] Right to repair

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Tue Nov 26 19:24:46 PST 2019


Thank you Carl, I will keep that in mind if the problem rears it's ugly
head again.  Wonder why the fuel stations aren't held to the same
standards? Oh, wait that's right we don't have lobbyist.

Mike M

On 11/26/2019 10:09 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> Sometimes all you need to do to fix the engine light, as related to the fuel system, is to get a new gas cap. If it isn’t sealing right it trips the system. Had to do this on a couple of cars a few years back.
>
> Carl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com>
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> Sent: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:29:48 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [AT] Right to repair
>
> I had a trouble light come on, on my "new" 2010" Silverado. Turns out
> there is a sensor hooked to the fuel system that will sense if a whiff
> of fuel vapor seeps out of the system, for pollution/emission control;
> note this is not even enough to smell. Meanwhile while I am fueling up,
> and go to put the nozzle back in the holder, I get a small stream of
> fuel that spills on the ground.  Do you know how much vapor must be in
> that stream? It was about a $200 sensor and according to GM can be
> caused by driving on dusty roads. Imagine that a pickup on a dusty road?
> A great use for black electrical tape, if it's running fine.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 11/26/2019 8:58 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>> On 2019-11-26 2:21 p.m., Phil Auten wrote:
>>> The point of all this is that the weak link in the newer vehicles is
>>> the electronics. They apparently do not understand "worst case design".
>>>
>>> Phil in TX
>>>
>>>
>>> I've said for some time now that the more electronics on a machine,
>>> the more likely there will be problems I can't fix. I just put in a
>>> few hours on the hammer mill powered by the 66 year old Cockshutt 50
>>> tractor. My old vehicles rarely have electrical problems but my "new"
>>> 97 Blazer has had a few bugs. Light switch almost left me without
>>> headlights to drive home one night. Ignition switch failed and barely
>>> got me home another time. The check engine light has been on for
>>> years now but its just the gas cap or vent or some minor thing. ABS
>>> light has been on a while but the brakes work fine. Of course I know
>>> that they are not built to last now. It makes more sense economically
>>> (for the companies) to have them wear/rust out and sell you a new one
>>> every few years.
>> Ralph in Sask.
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