[AT] 430V and First cutting of hay...

Wed May 22 20:38:05 PDT 2019

Tha is Dean.   I will make sure to check that.  Will probably be next week tho.   Regular day job and catching up on chores and honey-do will prevent shop time for a while...

Spencer Yost

> On May 22, 2019, at 11:19 PM, Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
> 
> So to be fair Farmer, I’m probably sick of this instance of a NH #57  rake rather than the model in general. Although I still have some issues with the model too.  
> 
> Problems with this particular rake:  I needed a rake, and there is no way I was paying 1500 to 2000 for a New Holland 56/256 so I bought the $700 #57 rake. It was indeed a $700 rake. The previous owner had buggered up the mounting for one wheel so it’s really hard to get the basket level.   So basically I have to rely on the three point hitch and adjustable right hand link arm on my tractors to keep it level. Which means one wheel is off the ground much of the time.  It has one of those stupid spring loaded couplers (where you pull the whole thing back, not push a pin) for the PTO shaft, and after a day of raking it’s basically jammed onto the PTO shaft and I have to perform magic and say several cuss words before it will come off.
> 
> Problems with the rake in general:  The PTO shaft is very short on these rakes. It will not mount to just any tractor. It has to be a tractor where the PTO a certain distance behind and above the hitch point or the angle is too severe or the shaft is too short.  I had to take an inch off at each end of the telescoping PTO shaft to be able to get it to fit the John Deere 430V without a severe angle. It fit the Ford OK.  Also, if you don’t have enough draft movement in the link arms you will miss hay on the top of any undulation of the field. As the front end of the tractor goes over the undulation. The rake will lift off the ground if the undulation is sharp enough( like 6-8” is all it takes to leave a swath of hay along the leeward side of every undulation.)
> 
> You may remember that the first year I had a mower-conditioner and tedder but didn’t have a rake or baler because I had not yet found a baler I liked. So a friend raked and baled for me. He had a trail behind pinwheel rake with hydraulics for the arms. The field was beautiful, nothing was chewed up, nothing was left behind end it operated smooth and quiet. I was really impressed.
> 
> Spencer Yost
> 
>> On May 19, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you dislike about the NH rake? We got a Ferguson 3 point rake when I was about 11 (about 1953) and I loved raking with it. It was also trouble free, I think I patched a tire on it once.
>> The NH #57 looks about like a copy of the Ferguson.
>> I did much of the mowing and about all of the raking. My father usually ran the chopper (we did dry chopped hay) and I did the wagon running and the unloading, all blower set-ups etc.
>> When I was around 13 my father was laid up all summer with injuries to both legs and I filled 3 barns to the rafters working alone from about 30 acres. That and cultivating about 100 acres of corn and 20 acres of soybeans, combining 20 acres of wheat and chopping straw for bedding pretty much used up my whole summer that year...
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>>> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:
>>> Spencer, is it possible the main jets are a size too large. Just 
>>> spitballin' here.
>>> 
>>> Phil in TX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/18/2019 11:00 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> > Quick antique tractor update:
>>> >
>>> > Due to the failing health of a friend, I picked up two new hayfields, at least temporarily. Probably a total of 4 1/2 acres new to me. Very nice fields of good fescue with some orchard grass planted in. So I brought in 358 bales over the past week between all three fields(6.5 acres). The Ford did cutting, baling,  and tedding, and the John Deere 430V did the raking.   I would put the Pacer on tedding, but the previous owner put a twist in the PTO shaft of the tedder, so it only goes in so far. I can’t slide the shaft in enough to get it on the PTO of the Pacer.
>>> >
>>> > My animals are not crazy about predominately  fescue hay (they eat it OK but I can sense they are secretly writing letters to PETA complaining about the treatment they are getting :-) so I sold about 150 of the fescue bales. Will probably use that money to get a new shaft.
>>> >
>>> > Also, I cuss that damn NH 3 point #57 hay rake every time I use it. A new hay rake is probably in my future as well.  I am seriously thinking of a wheel rake this time.
>>> >
>>> > I realized with the extra seat time in the 430V, that I have an issue with it running a bit rich. I can always tell “rich running” by a slight stinging in my nostrils. Plus whenever the governor opens up I can see some black smoke. I’m not sure what I can do as I’ve been through the carburetor a couple of times and even replaced the load mixture needle assembly completely.  If I turn it down anymore, it falters when the governor opens up. But at it’s currently setting  it clearly is allowing the tractor to run a bit too rich.
>>> >
>>> > I am going to double check timing and all my settings.
>>> >
>>> > Spencer Yost
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