[AT] OT don't take any Buffalo Nickels and weather.

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sun Jun 23 09:11:08 PDT 2019


I got a D2 cat, I wish I had it running to smooth out the mud I moved 
with the D6D!!!    The old 6D is sorta heavy in the mud....
Cecil

On 6/23/2019 10:56 AM, pga2 at BasicISP.net wrote:
> We were in that situation a month or so ago. Rain nearly every day. 
> There was more water running in the Brazos river than I have seen 
> since I moved here at the tail end of '95. Lakes all up and down the 
> Brazos are letting water out to keep from flooding. There have been 
> several drownings due to stupid people doing stupid things in the high 
> water with submerged hazards in the lakes.
> We finally dried out enough so I could mow the yard and I had to raise 
> the deck up as high as it could go or the cut grass would clump up 
> really bad. Forecast is for rain again tonight and Monday with a 40% 
> chance Tuesday. The county came by and mowed the bar ditch in front of 
> the house and left it a rutted mess. When it gets dry enough I'll 
> grade the ruts out, but it won't be soon. Sure wishing I had a D2 Cat!
>
> Phil in damp TX
>
> --- crbearden at copper.net wrote:
>
> From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT don't take any Buffalo Nickels and weather.
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:38:12 -0500
>
> Farmer
> Interesting discussion on the terminology of things..   Here in 
> Oklahoma, there are so many things that you have to know the slang 
> term for in order to just survive..  Buffalo are Buffalo here, not 
> Bison..  I did not know why they were called Buffalo.  Thanks for that 
> lesson.  I learn so many things from talking with the old-timers and I 
> found out at a continuing education session Friday that I was 
> considered to be one of those...
>
> We had over 30 inches of rain in 31 days in Central OK. Record 
> rainfall since 1895.  The flat  areas of the pasture now have water 
> grass growing in them.  I tried to drain a spot yesterday while I had 
> the dozer running and nearly got stuck. There is a winch on that D6D 
> but I have not tried it out.  I would have to use the 944 Cat to 
> anchor it and it was on the battery charger.  The 944 has a 24volt 
> generator that I guess is not charging..  It takes an hour to remove 
> all the panels to get at it.  The E110B trackhoe is still in need of 
> another 10 gallons of hydraulic oil after I replaced a boom cylinder 
> ($1350), I have not tried it out yet.    The rain has delayed 
> everything here.  From getting cattle worked to harvest to hay 
> cutting.  Thursday & Friday were the 2 dry days I had available, and I 
> had to spend it setting in a mandatory $400 continuing  education 
> session for my Engineering license.   If this continual rain does not 
> stop soon, we are going to be in a world of hurt.  I saw some wheat 
> fields cut yesterday that had large tracts left uncut due to weeds.  
> They were too wet to cut for hay.  Marestail was sticking up a foot 
> above the wheat heads.  Many fields are so wet that 4wd combines were 
> making tracks over a foot deep.  I saw one custom harvester with rice 
> combines on tracks and his grain carts were on tracks.   They were 
> heading north.   There may be a hay cutting if it ever stops raining 
> long enough to dry out,  but the quality will be crap because we don't 
> dare fertilize when the rain following the fertilizer application is 
> so heavy the fertilizer is in the creek.  We get 2-3 inches in less 
> than an hour.  I get reports from a private weather station a mile 
> away and many times it has shown over 4 inches an hour rainfall rate.  
> A few years ago, urbanized drainage used 4 inches per hour as the 100 
> yr design flood.  The grass has grown so fast that there is no food 
> value in it.  I had to start feeding again because my mother cows did 
> not have milk with enough food value in it.  Too much water.  The 
> calves were getting scours from watery milk.  I started feeding every 
> day with 15% protein cubes and after a week, the scours dried up.  The 
> cows are also maintaining condition.  Before feeding they were losing 
> condition.  Like my Dad, I take pride in having cows that are healthy 
> and fat and stay that way.  This has been the worst year for 
> livestock.  We have had storm after storm with baseball size hail.  
> The high winds from downbursts in north central OK has left entire 
> sections with wheat lodged down.
> The estimates for the wheat harvest are too optimistic.  I have 
> already reserved wheat seed for sowing this fall.
>
> I think it was you farmer that once said the old saying was "A dry 
> year will scare you, a wet year will kill you!"  That saying has never 
> been more true.
> The prospects for this year don't look good, but I am sure we will 
> still be here next year..
>
> Cecil in the central OK swamp.
>
> On 6/23/2019 2:52 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>
>     I find this discussion a little surprising... I was taught in
>     about the 6th grade (in a small rural school in the 1950's) that
>     what we all call buffalo are really scientifically true bison and
>     that early explorers were just guessing as to what they were. It
>     was much like them thinking at first that this was the far side of
>     the world and them calling everybody "Indians". The name just
>     stuck and so did buffalo.
>     Even back when I was in school it was understood that most people
>     would probably always continue to call them buffalo in casual
>     conservation and I still do. By the time I learned that they were
>     really bison I had already learned the words dog, cat, cow etc.
>     and bison was a strange sounding name to me.
>     Languages are funny things... Always evolving but not always in a
>     good way. I have a few pet peeves from more recent years about how
>     people butcher things. I watch a lot of DIY stuff and keep saying
>     (mostly to the TV screen) "No, that is not ship-lap. Every old 8"
>     board is not ship-lap!" or "No that is not a "cinder block! It is
>     either a cement block or a concrete block... It is only a cinder
>     block if it was produced using cinders for the aggregate and very
>     few of those are being produced these days."
>     Rambling farther off track (not a cinder track).  :-)
>     When Diana and I got married in June 1963 we rented a small house
>     at the edge of town for a year and a half that was on a full
>     basement all made of actual cinder block. When that first winter
>     came along I got a real shock. The cinders were quite coarse and
>     the block walls were not even close to being air tight. When the
>     winter winds began to howl you could not heat the basement. If you
>     lit a candle (I really did) and held it next to the west wall on a
>     high wind day it would blow the candle out.
>     Speaking of languages, we have become friends with a Greek family
>     who have a local gyro based restaurant (pronounced ˈyērō). Really
>     nice family. We were eating there a day or two ago and a lady and
>     I believe her daughter sat a the booth behind me and were
>     chatting. I wasn't sure what language they were speaking but it
>     wasn't English. When things slowed down our friends came out to
>     visit with them and I realized that that they had been chatting in
>     Greek. It was a happy visit for the 4 of them and I had to chuckle
>     a few times as they talked listening to them as all 4 of them
>     flip-flopped from Greek to English over and over again. It was
>     maybe about 60% Greek and 40% English. Our friends are quite good
>     at English so it was funny hearing the sudden shift from rapid
>     fire Greek to a perfectly enunciated full sentence or more in
>     English then instantly back to Greek. I can only assume that some
>     thoughts just might be easier to express in English and some
>     easier in Greek. We have some Chinese friends but they always
>     speak all Chinese or all English. We also have Hispanic friends
>     and family and they also speak mostly all one or the other. I have
>     always wished I could learn other languages but while I have
>     learned many thing in my time, other languages are just not a big
>     part of my skill set. I do speak American English, British
>     English, Australian English and a little New  Zealand English... 
>     :-)  I do also speak a little dog, cat and horse.
>     .
>     Dang! I'm getting burned out on daily raining... Crops are all
>     over the place in quality and some fields are still not planted
>     and still standing water. One problem with a really wet spring
>     here is that if the ground stays too wet too long the corn will
>     not put down many deep roots then if it suddenly turns very dry it
>     doesn't have a root system deep enough to get good moisture. If
>     that happens the guys that use irrigation here may benefit from
>     its use.
>     It's been "interesting" with these everyday rains going past the
>     local Whitecastle joint in a down pour of rain and seeing their
>     sprinkler system running. It must be under "corporate control".
>
>
>
>     .
>
>     .
>
>     On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:59 AM James Peck
>     <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         I am a fan of the Lonesome Dove series, both the books and the
>         miniseries, and even have been to one of the filming sites.
>         One main character is Buffalo Hump. Maybe we can get author
>         Larry McMurtry to rename him.
>
>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Hump
>
>         The book 'War Of a Thousand Deserts" gives the Comanches
>         credit for discombobulating Mexico enough for the US to win
>         the 1846 war.
>
>         https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158373/war-thousand-deserts
>
>         [James Peck] I was on a work related trip to a location along
>         the old Erie Railroad right of way in western New York about
>         10 years ago and heard a man rant about the shortcomings of
>         English speakers. He was upset that Beau Fleur had become
>         Buffalo. This source says that is fake info.
>
>         https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100616152325AAZECYp
>
>         [Dean VP Snohomish, WA 98290] I'm sure "Buffalo Bill might
>         disagree with this. \uD83D\uDE0A
>
>         [szabelski at wildblue.net <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net>  The
>         correct terminology is “BISON”.  Bison are members of the
>         bovine group “BUFFALO”.  Bison are native to North and South
>         America. Buffalo are native to Africa and Asia ( i.e.: Water
>         Buffalo, etc).
>
>         [James Peck] I was in a place where the TV was playing
>         "Highway Through Hell" a few days ago. They were towing and
>         removing vehicles and big loads on the Alaskan Highway. When
>         they drove by a herd of what my first instinct would be to
>         call "Buffalo", the Canadian accented truckers called them
>         "Bison".
>
>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison
>
>         The show had some WW2 shots of tracked tractors pulling pan
>         scrapers in the building of the highway.
>
>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Thru_Hell
>
>
>         [Ralph]  <snip>The bison herd are being fed a hay bale or two
>         fairly regularly as the grass can't keep up with them. <snip>
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