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<p>I got a D2 cat, I wish I had it running to smooth out the mud I
moved with the D6D!!! The old 6D is sorta heavy in the mud....<br>
Cecil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2019 10:56 AM,
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<div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><font
size="2">We were in that situation a month or so ago. Rain
nearly every day. There was more water running in the Brazos
river than I have seen since I moved here at the tail end of
'95. Lakes all up a</font><font size="2"><font size="2">n</font>d
down the Brazos are letting water out to keep from flooding.
There have been several drownings due to stupid people doing
stupid things in the high water with submerged hazards in the
lakes.<br>
We finally dried out enough so I could mow the yard and I had
to raise the deck up as high as it could go or the cut grass
would clump up really bad. Forecast is for rain again tonight
and Monday with a 40% chance Tuesday. The county came by and
mowed the bar ditch in front of the house and left it a rutted
mess. When it gets dry enough I'll grade the ruts out, but it
won't be soon. Sure wishing I had a D2 Cat!<br>
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Phil in damp TX<br>
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From: Cecil Bearden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"><crbearden@copper.net></a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [AT] OT don't take any Buffalo Nickels and weather.<br>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 08:38:12 -0500<br>
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<p>Farmer<br>
Interesting discussion on the terminology of things.. Here
in Oklahoma, there are so many things that you have to know
the slang term for in order to just survive.. Buffalo are
Buffalo here, not Bison.. I did not know why they were called
Buffalo. Thanks for that lesson. I learn so many things from
talking with the old-timers and I found out at a continuing
education session Friday that I was considered to be one of
those...</p>
<p>We had over 30 inches of rain in 31 days in Central OK.
Record rainfall since 1895. The flat areas of the pasture
now have water grass growing in them. I tried to drain a spot
yesterday while I had the dozer running and nearly got stuck.
There is a winch on that D6D but I have not tried it out. I
would have to use the 944 Cat to anchor it and it was on the
battery charger. The 944 has a 24volt generator that I guess
is not charging.. It takes an hour to remove all the panels
to get at it. The E110B trackhoe is still in need of another
10 gallons of hydraulic oil after I replaced a boom cylinder
($1350), I have not tried it out yet. The rain has delayed
everything here. From getting cattle worked to harvest to hay
cutting. Thursday & Friday were the 2 dry days I had
available, and I had to spend it setting in a mandatory $400
continuing education session for my Engineering license. If
this continual rain does not stop soon, we are going to be in
a world of hurt. I saw some wheat fields cut yesterday that
had large tracts left uncut due to weeds. They were too wet
to cut for hay. Marestail was sticking up a foot above the
wheat heads. Many fields are so wet that 4wd combines were
making tracks over a foot deep. I saw one custom harvester
with rice combines on tracks and his grain carts were on
tracks. They were heading north. There may be a hay
cutting if it ever stops raining long enough to dry out, but
the quality will be crap because we don't dare fertilize when
the rain following the fertilizer application is so heavy the
fertilizer is in the creek. We get 2-3 inches in less than an
hour. I get reports from a private weather station a mile
away and many times it has shown over 4 inches an hour
rainfall rate. A few years ago, urbanized drainage used 4
inches per hour as the 100 yr design flood. The grass has
grown so fast that there is no food value in it. I had to
start feeding again because my mother cows did not have milk
with enough food value in it. Too much water. The calves
were getting scours from watery milk. I started feeding every
day with 15% protein cubes and after a week, the scours dried
up. The cows are also maintaining condition. Before feeding
they were losing condition. Like my Dad, I take pride in
having cows that are healthy and fat and stay that way. This
has been the worst year for livestock. We have had storm
after storm with baseball size hail. The high winds from
downbursts in north central OK has left entire sections with
wheat lodged down. <br>
The estimates for the wheat harvest are too optimistic. I
have already reserved wheat seed for sowing this fall. <br>
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<p>I think it was you farmer that once said the old saying was
"A dry year will scare you, a wet year will kill you!" That
saying has never been more true. <br>
The prospects for this year don't look good, but I am sure we
will still be here next year.. <br>
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<p>Cecil in the central OK swamp.<br>
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<div>On 6/23/2019 2:52 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:<br>
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<div>I find this discussion a little surprising... I was
taught in about the 6th grade (in a small rural school in
the 1950's) that what we all call buffalo are really
scientifically true bison and that early explorers were
just guessing as to what they were. It was much like them
thinking at first that this was the far side of the world
and them calling everybody "Indians". The name just stuck
and so did buffalo.</div>
<div>Even back when I was in school it was understood that
most people would probably always continue to call them
buffalo in casual conservation and I still do. By the time
I learned that they were really bison I had already
learned the words dog, cat, cow etc. and bison was a
strange sounding name to me. <br>
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<div>Languages are funny things... Always evolving but not
always in a good way. I have a few pet peeves from more
recent years about how people butcher things. I watch a
lot of DIY stuff and keep saying (mostly to the TV screen)
"No, that is not ship-lap. Every old 8" board is not
ship-lap!" or "No that is not a "cinder block! It is
either a cement block or a concrete block... It is only a
cinder block if it was produced using cinders for the
aggregate and very few of those are being produced these
days."</div>
<div>Rambling farther off track (not a cinder track). :-)<br>
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<div>When Diana and I got married in June 1963 we rented a
small house at the edge of town for a year and a half that
was on a full basement all made of actual cinder block.
When that first winter came along I got a real shock. The
cinders were quite coarse and the block walls were not
even close to being air tight. When the winter winds began
to howl you could not heat the basement. If you lit a
candle (I really did) and held it next to the west wall on
a high wind day it would blow the candle out.</div>
<div>Speaking of languages, we have become friends with a
Greek family who have a local gyro based restaurant
(pronounced <span><span>ˈyērō</span>)</span>. Really nice
family. We were eating there a day or two ago and a lady
and I believe her daughter sat a the booth behind me and
were chatting. I wasn't sure what language they were
speaking but it wasn't English. When things slowed down
our friends came out to visit with them and I realized
that that they had been chatting in Greek. It was a happy
visit for the 4 of them and I had to chuckle a few times
as they talked listening to them as all 4 of them
flip-flopped from Greek to English over and over again. It
was maybe about 60% Greek and 40% English. Our friends are
quite good at English so it was funny hearing the sudden
shift from rapid fire Greek to a perfectly enunciated full
sentence or more in English then instantly back to Greek.
I can only assume that some thoughts just might be easier
to express in English and some easier in Greek. We have
some Chinese friends but they always speak all Chinese or
all English. We also have Hispanic friends and family and
they also speak mostly all one or the other. I have always
wished I could learn other languages but while I have
learned many thing in my time, other languages are just
not a big part of my skill set. I do speak American
English, British English, Australian English and a little
New Zealand English... :-) I do also speak a little
dog, cat and horse.</div>
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<div>Dang! I'm getting burned out on daily raining... Crops
are all over the place in quality and some fields are
still not planted and still standing water. One problem
with a really wet spring here is that if the ground stays
too wet too long the corn will not put down many deep
roots then if it suddenly turns very dry it doesn't have a
root system deep enough to get good moisture. If that
happens the guys that use irrigation here may benefit from
its use.</div>
<div>It's been "interesting" with these everyday rains going
past the local Whitecastle joint in a down pour of rain
and seeing their sprinkler system running. It must be
under "corporate control".<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:59 AM James Peck
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moz-do-not-send="true">jamesgpeck@hotmail.com</a>>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I am a fan of the
Lonesome Dove series, both the books and the miniseries,
and even have been to one of the filming sites. One main
character is Buffalo Hump. Maybe we can get author Larry
McMurtry to rename him.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Hump"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Hump</a><br>
<br>
The book 'War Of a Thousand Deserts" gives the Comanches
credit for discombobulating Mexico enough for the US to
win the 1846 war.<br>
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<a
href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158373/war-thousand-deserts"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158373/war-thousand-deserts</a><br>
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[James Peck] I was on a work related trip to a location
along the old Erie Railroad right of way in western New
York about 10 years ago and heard a man rant about the
shortcomings of English speakers. He was upset that Beau
Fleur had become Buffalo. This source says that is fake
info.<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100616152325AAZECYp"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100616152325AAZECYp</a><br>
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[Dean VP Snohomish, WA 98290] I'm sure "Buffalo Bill might
disagree with this. \uD83D\uDE0A<br>
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[<a href="mailto:szabelski@wildblue.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">szabelski@wildblue.net</a> The
correct terminology is “BISON”. Bison are members of the
bovine group “BUFFALO”. Bison are native to North and
South America. Buffalo are native to Africa and Asia (
i.e.: Water Buffalo, etc).<br>
<br>
[James Peck] I was in a place where the TV was playing
"Highway Through Hell" a few days ago. They were towing
and removing vehicles and big loads on the Alaskan
Highway. When they drove by a herd of what my first
instinct would be to call "Buffalo", the Canadian accented
truckers called them "Bison".<br>
<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison</a><br>
<br>
The show had some WW2 shots of tracked tractors pulling
pan scrapers in the building of the highway.<br>
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<a
href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Thru_Hell"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Thru_Hell</a><br>
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[Ralph] <snip>The bison herd are being fed a hay
bale or two fairly regularly as the grass can't keep up
with them. <snip><br>
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