[AT] OT shifting blame

Tue Feb 26 19:48:07 PST 2019

Dean:
Thanks for straightening me out.  Back when we bought our 21ft Airstream 
from a former dealer, the owner told us that Thor corporation had bought 
Airstream from Beatrice Foods.  I questioned him at the time about that 
being the air tool company and he said it was...    Thor Pneumatic tools 
was bought out by Stewart-Warner...

Granted Airstream has had a lot of problems with their trailers since 
the mid 90's.   Frame problems especially.   The older models were well 
built, but their problem was leaking around the windows and the riveted 
seams in the shell..   The leakage would rot the plywood floor and the 
floor supported the shell.   To replace the floor the shell needs to be 
lifted from the frame and there is an aluminum angle  that sets on the 
floor and attaches the shell.  Replacement of our 21ft floor would take 
at least 100 man hours...  It is now too good to scrap, and too bad to 
really use like we want to...

Cecil

On 2/26/2019 9:02 PM, deanvp at att.net wrote:
>
> Cecil,
>
> Interesting observations.  That I have no argument with but one 
> comment woke me up.
>
> “ Airstream trailers was bought by Beatrice foods, then sold to Thor 
> Corporation. “”” manufacturer of air tools”””      As far as I know 
> Thor Corporation that bought Airstream is the largest RV Manufacturer 
> in the US with a large variety of brands. I’m not aware of them being 
> into air tools.  Did I miss something?  BTW, in line with your 
> discussion…. Airstream had a pretty good reputation for quality, 
> however since the Thor manufacturing policies have been instituted the 
> Airstream Quality has steadily declined noticeably.   Thor’s primary 
> focus is to strip the costs out of the RV, focus on producing more 
> units faster at less cost and selling sizzle rather than substance. 
> Thor’s stock has steadily declined and IMHO the Thor management is 
> trying to squeeze every dime out of the multiple brands before 
> abandoning them and sailing off in the sunset with their ill-gotten 
> gains.  Just look into Markus Lemonis and what he and his minions are 
> really doing at Thor. It is sickening.  The RV industry has a poor 
> reputation for quality products. Markus is driving that quality 
> reputation to new lows.
>
> Dean VP
>
> Apache junction, AZ
>
> *From:*AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Cecil 
> Bearden
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:39 AM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] OT shifting blame
>
> That town is no different that every other factory town that lost the 
> main workplace when the manufacturer went offshore, or just went belly 
> up.   Massey went bankrupt due to some bad management decisions and 
> changes in Farming.  Allis Chalmers died due to the Germans buying 
> them out and changing the engine design.  White motor Co. bought 
> Oliver and Minneapolis Moline and just drained the companies of 
> everything.  Then AGCO bought them and only kept the planter.  The 
> later 2-105 White tractors were a later version of the 1850 Series 
> Oliver.  One of the Best tractors made IMO.  I remember when the first 
> Russian wheat deal was signed and wheat went to $6 a bushel.   One 
> Week later John Deere raised prices 20% across the board....  I can't 
> testify to International.   IH had some problems in the 80's.  I 
> remember buying some IH stock for $6 a share in the 80's.   This was 
> when Tenneco was working on buying International Harvester Ag.  
> Tenneco was first a gas transmission company...    I blame many 
> problems in manufacturing on the big companies in the 70's thru the 
> 90's playing the merger acquisition game.  When a company is publicly 
> traded and their assets are worth more than their stock, they are in a 
> bad position for some greedy entity to buy their stock and dismantle 
> the company for a fast buck. Airstream trailers was bought by Beatrice 
> foods,  then sold to Thor corporation, the manufacturers of air 
> tools.  Many of these acquisitions just did not make sense and then 
> the companies flounder for several years before going out of business 
> or going offshore....
>
> Then when you have too many people with no work and the government 
> pays so well for not working, then you have the drug problem...    I 
> guess the old saying Idle hands are the Devils workforce is so true....
>
> Just rambling....     Freezing drizzle for the next 36 hours here,
>
> Cecil
>
> On 2/26/2019 12:02 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
>     Your statement does not accurately represent what the author is
>     saying.
>
>     On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:06 PM James Peck <jamesgpeck at hotmail.com
>     <mailto:jamesgpeck at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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>         This author is claiming they are taking dope in Brantford
>         because MF went out of business.
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>         https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-in-brantfords-opioid-nightmare-a-community-sees-more-hopeful-days/
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