[AT] brake lining adhesive

Tue Dec 31 08:14:14 PST 2019

With the rotor truing equipment, it still needs to be maintained. The local
parts pusher I sometimes has had theirs out of business for a couple years
because they somehow bent the main shaft on it and the management decided
they didn't want to spend money to have someone do that again (my
interpretation). I can only imagine training some of these parts guys must
be a challenge just by itself, let alone keeping tools like that insured
and working.

  On a humorous and rather off-topic note, I took several batteries in
there when I went to get another battery for my tractor hauling rig. Turns
out that when the parts guy hit the door threshold with my 4 scissorlift
batteries on his little tool cart (3 on the top shelf) it stopped the
wheels, tipped up slightly on the trailing end, sheared the 4 plastic riser
posts off on the top and the bottom (completely separating the top and
bottom shelves of the cart) and dropped 4 big 6 volt batteries on the
floor. The kid was trying to be helpful but he wiped out that cart, spilled
some acid out of one battery and in general made a helluva mess.

I may only get $10 per battery for the trade in, but I suspect that cart
cost them more than that. Nobody hurt, everyone laughed and I left with a
new appreciation for the mechanical understanding some folks don't have.

Ken in AZ

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> I think Steve hit the nail on the head.  My Expedition has over 190K on it
> and needs new pads.  Autozone ran a special %40 off and free shipping so I
> ordered pads, calipers and rotors.  For $40 I had new rotors.  I have a
> brake lathe for drums and rotors, paid over $1000 for it several years
> ago.  It has been very good to have around.  Some of those new rotors still
> have to be trued up.   Same thing with alternators and starters, I used to
> rebuild my own or go to a local shop.  Where to buy the parts since
> National auto parts in IN went out of business is the problem.  I can buy a
> new starter or alternator from DB electrical ( Arrowhead electrical supply
> ) for about the same amount as rebuilding and get free shipping.  The
> availability of cheap foreign made parts has killed the rebuilding
> industry.  I save all my old cores just in case the SHTF....
>
> Cecil
> On 12/31/2019 7:14 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>
> This could become a rant on the current state of "plug & play" automotive
> repair.  I'll try to keep it down.  One of the early signs was engine
> rebuilding.  Decades ago, that moved from the garage down the street,  to
> specialist shops (that still exist for high-performance and racing builds),
> then to centralized production-line style rebuilding industry.  Next,
> brakes.  Every shop used to have a brake lathe to turn drums and rotors -
> they still do, collecting dust in the corner.  New parts got thinner for
> reduced weight so in many cases you couldn't cut them, and they also got
> cheaper, so the measuring and cutting tasks started to go away.  Just throw
> brand-new parts on - parts are cheap and labor is minimal.  As for
> re-lining friction material, that's a completely different animal.  I don't
> even know the history.  Not sure if it was ever a routine function of the
> garage down the street, except maybe way way back.  I do recall core
> charges on shoes and pads, so somebody somewhere was apparently re-lining
> them.  Starters and alternators, that was once the domain of a local-ish
> specialist shop.  Losing out to cheap new replacement parts, but that
> battle isn't over.  I work in the Providence RI area, and according to
> Google, there are still multiple choices in "armature shops" within
> striking distance.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 7:30 AM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> First: thanks Farmer! It was a pretty nice birthday
>>
>> Second:  I don’t have anything to add, but have a question: Whatever
>> happened to local/regional auto parts rebuilders? In every place I’ve lived
>> there was a company, usually within 30 minutes, that aggregated automotive
>> parts for rebuilding and resale.  These companies would always take walk-in
>> parts from local customers as well.  Here, the rebuilder was Hastings(King
>> NC). They were not affiliated with the larger national Hastings brand.
>>
>> Anyways I never learned how to do linings and several other typical shop
>> skills such as turning drums, etc because I always had a business locally
>> that did it better, faster, and cheaper than I ever could.   Anyways, I
>> miss those companies.
>>
>> Unfortunately Hastings went out of business about 15 years ago. The Pacer
>> brake bands were the last things I had done there. I don’t know - it
>> might’ve been clutch lining out of another tractor shortly after that.
>>
>> We’re down to our last few, local  starter/alternator/generator repair
>> shops.   I suspect they will be gone soon too.
>>
>> Spencer
>>
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