[AT] brake lining adhesive

[Cecil Bearden]

I think Steve hit the nail on the head.  My Expedition has over 190K on 
it and needs new pads.  Autozone ran a special %40 off and free shipping 
so I ordered pads, calipers and rotors.  For $40 I had new rotors.  I 
have a brake lathe for drums and rotors, paid over $1000 for it several 
years ago.  It has been very good to have around.  Some of those new 
rotors still have to be trued up.   Same thing with alternators and 
starters, I used to rebuild my own or go to a local shop.  Where to buy 
the parts since National auto parts in IN went out of business is the 
problem.  I can buy a new starter or alternator from DB electrical ( 
Arrowhead electrical supply ) for about the same amount as rebuilding 
and get free shipping.  The availability of cheap foreign made parts has 
killed the rebuilding industry.  I save all my old cores just in case 
the SHTF....

Cecil

On 12/31/2019 7:14 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> This could become a rant on the current state of "plug & play" 
> automotive repair.  I'll try to keep it down. One of the early signs 
> was engine rebuilding.  Decades ago, that moved from the garage down 
> the street,  to specialist shops (that still exist for 
> high-performance and racing builds), then to centralized 
> production-line style rebuilding industry.  Next, brakes.  Every shop 
> used to have a brake lathe to turn drums and rotors - they still do, 
> collecting dust in the corner.  New parts got thinner for reduced 
> weight so in many cases you couldn't cut them, and they also got 
> cheaper, so the measuring and cutting tasks started to go away.  Just 
> throw brand-new parts on - parts are cheap and labor is minimal.  As 
> for re-lining friction material, that's a completely different 
> animal.  I don't even know the history.  Not sure if it was ever a 
> routine function of the garage down the street, except maybe way way 
> back.  I do recall core charges on shoes and pads, so somebody 
> somewhere was apparently re-lining them.  Starters and alternators, 
> that was once the domain of a local-ish specialist shop.  Losing out 
> to cheap new replacement parts, but that battle isn't over.  I work in 
> the Providence RI area, and according to Google, there are still 
> multiple choices in "armature shops" within striking distance.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 7:30 AM Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com 
> <mailto:spencer at rdfarms.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     First: thanks Farmer! It was a pretty nice birthday
>
>     Second:  I don’t have anything to add, but have a question:
>     Whatever happened to local/regional auto parts rebuilders? In
>     every place I’ve lived there was a company, usually within 30
>     minutes, that aggregated automotive parts for rebuilding and
>     resale.  These companies would always take walk-in parts from
>     local customers as well. Here, the rebuilder was Hastings(King
>     NC). They were not affiliated with the larger national Hastings brand.
>
>     Anyways I never learned how to do linings and several other
>     typical shop skills such as turning drums, etc because I always
>     had a business locally that did it better, faster, and cheaper
>     than I ever could. Anyways, I miss those companies.
>
>     Unfortunately Hastings went out of business about 15 years ago.
>     The Pacer brake bands were the last things I had done there. I
>     don’t know - it might’ve been clutch lining out of another tractor
>     shortly after that.
>
>     We’re down to our last few, local  starter/alternator/generator
>     repair shops. I suspect they will be gone soon too.
>
>     Spencer
>
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