[AT] Rivets and rivet countersink, added thanks

[jdnut at aol.com]

Thanks to all that have read this thread and especially those that have contributed. 
 I should have mentioned that the tubular semi hollow brake rivets that I plan to use essentially need a 180 degree countersink.  The one at the bottom of the link that Cecil sink is what I think I need, but at around $90 per countersink..... I was looking at something a little more reasonable.  It has been awhile since I looked at my projects in detail, I have the feeling that some of the holes were 9/64 and some had been worn such that 5/32 was a bit loose.  The service brake in the BR is essentially a thin piece of spring steel with the lining riveted to the inside of the "circle" and when applied, the circle tightens around a cylinder on a shaft from the transmission/differential.  Not sure if the gluing would work for something that flexes a bit.  Anyway, thanks so much for all the effort that has gone into this.  I am thinking that I can do some practice, and I can see if I use the idea that Carl mentions below with the pointed punch.  I have also considered using a backing washer of the right size, .... if the correct police want to crawl under my BR to see that, they are more than welcome.  My tractors are for use, not really for fancy shows anyway.  
Thanks again, take care, happy new year,
John Maxwell Ferndale CA   (BTW Brad, quite familiar with Morro Bay, CA, taught at Cal Poly SLO for 28 years.... we would often take guests to Dorn's for dinner, also as escape from the summer heat when I lived in Atascadero, CA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
To: at <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 29, 2019 7:02 am
Subject: Re: [AT] Rivets and rivet countersink

This is a link to a bonding kit on ebay a countersink is also listed 
varying prices. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Lining-Adhesive-Bonding-Kit/273835366322?hash=item3fc1dc17b2:g:BWIAAOxyA4ZRTIyk


Cecil

On 12/29/2019 8:27 AM, szabelski at wildblue.net wrote:
> Harbor Freight has countersink sets that cut at different angles. I would think that one of these would be what you’re looking for(???). Don’t know what you think of HF tools, but if you’re not going into the business of brake shoe rebuilding, they should be good enough for what you need.
>
> If the holes in the shoes are a little large for the rivets, set the rivet in the hole and use a pointed punch to expand the river in the hole after you partially peen it down. Then finish peening it in.
>
> Carl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jdnut at aol.com
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> Sent: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:28:52 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: [AT] Rivets and rivet countersink
>
> Happy New Year,Since it is quiet on the list.... I will see if there are ideas for several different rivet jobs I have in the future.  This is Deere stuff, ca. 1936 to 1945, clutch pulley brakes, service brake on a BR, and something else that escapes my mind right now.  Some holes are larger than they were original, ... and with the different projects, I need a variety of diameters, and lengths.  I have the brake lining, just need to cut to length.  I have a very old thing to make a big drill into a drill press, that I think will work well to set the rivets.  If I still lived in Santa Maria, I would take to Coast Clutch and Brake, but my basic research up here indicates the closest shop for riveting like I need is 250 miles away.
> So, question #1, .... is there a source for rivets without having to buy 100 at a time?
> Question #2, .... I think I will need at least three different countersinks.  I bought some brake rivets from the Model A Ford place, and they had a countersink for those..... basically looked like a dulled down spade bit.
> If that is what it takes, I can buy a couple of bits that are close, and use my grinder and a file to make them look like the countersink from the Model A Ford place.
> Thanks in advance for reading.  Take care,
> John Ferndale, CA
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