[AT] Antique tractors that are too expensive
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Mon Dec 23 07:08:45 PST 2019
I should add that with the Idealarc 250 Ac/DC you can add a Tig unit to
it....
Cecil
On 12/23/2019 7:27 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Again I inquire, how old is old? Is my late '70's ish tombstone old
> enough? (I'd take a grand for it in a heartbeat and put it towards a
> modern TIG/stick unit)
>
> SO
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 8:13 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
> <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>
> At a Farm sale about 3 months ago, an old 225 AC/DC Lincoln went
> for $1200, the leads were about to fall apart. It looked like it
> had a rod holder from 1945!!
> Cecil
>
> On 12/23/2019 6:30 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Hold on, you say old LIncoln tombstones go for a grand? How old
>> do they have to be? I've got a 225 AC/DC that I picked up at an
>> auction for $50, had to be 20 years ago, and it was certainly not
>> new then. As a wild guess I'd say it must be late '70's to early
>> 80's. Externally it doesn't seem much different from modern ones
>> and I greatly doubt mine is old enough to be worth anything.
>> Curious though.
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 6:22 PM Cecil Bearden
>> <crbearden at copper.net <mailto:crbearden at copper.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I always wanted an old Lincoln "tombstone"225 AC/DC welder.
>> They sell at auction for over $1000. An old local farmer
>> had an estate auction and I was at the back of the crowd when
>> his Lincoln Tombstone welder came up for auction. I got it
>> for $400, but after I got it home is was a tombstone, but it
>> was AC only..... I finally got the chance to buy one on
>> Craigs list for $600. Then a year later I bought 4 that had
>> been rebuilt for a VO-Tech out west for $450 for the lot!!!
>> I first welded with one of them during college at OSU. I
>> fell in love with the welder. Those welders have an open arc
>> voltage of about 90V. They will make you jump when welding
>> on wet stuff... However, they run 7018 LH as pretty as you
>> could ever want. I have mounted one on a 15KW generator for
>> a portable welder. It works great and I have plenty of power
>> to run grinders etc.
>> Cecil
>>
>> On 12/22/2019 2:59 PM, deanvp at att.net <mailto:deanvp at att.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I purchased my used Lincoln 225 AMP arc welder for $100 at a
>>> swap meet. It is quite old. I haven’t taken the time to try
>>> to figure out how old but I wanted to buy an older one after
>>> looking at new ones. I looked at the guts of a new one vs
>>> how the old ones were built and decided an old one would
>>> last longer and probably weld better. I’ve had it 10 years
>>> and it is ready to go every time I need it. IMHO, sometimes
>>> new isn’t always better.
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>>
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> *From:*AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>
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>>> *Mike M
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Antique tractors that are too expensive
>>>
>>> I've also seen people bid way too high, they get caught up
>>> in the excitement. I was standing next to a guy who was
>>> bidding on an old tombstone welder. I wanted it too. I think
>>> he ended up paying $300 for it. You could buy a new one for
>>> less than that. It's pays to know what things cost before
>>> bidding on them. I was bidding, but dropped out at $150,
>>> because that is all I was willing to pay.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 12/22/2019 12:13 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have all seen it: the tractor the seller is asking
>>> way too much for. Or conversely; why buyers don’t show
>>> up for our obviously wonderful tractor that we post in
>>> EBay/Craigslist/whatever.
>>>
>>> So listening to podcasts tonight, I ran across a podcast
>>> that was discussing many things, including a discussion
>>> with a psychologist from Berkeley who was explaining the
>>> “endowment effect”. I was unaware of this. Though I had
>>> intuited it many times I did not know it was a “thing”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Long story short it explains why people often seem to
>>> ask way more for a tractor that I’m willing to pay.
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect
>>>
>>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+
>>>
>>> Interestingly, this is true regardless of how long they
>>> owned it or whether it had any other type (e.g.
>>> nostalgia) of value.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the podcast did not describe how I, the
>>> buyer, could negotiate my way around this.
>>>
>>> PS: I will be that seller if I ever sell the Pacer. (-;
>>>
>>> Spencer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
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