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    <p>I should add that with the Idealarc 250 Ac/DC you can add a Tig
      unit to it....<br>
      Cecil<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/2019 7:27 AM, Stephen Offiler
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      <div dir="ltr">Again I inquire, how old is old?  Is my late '70's 
        ish tombstone old enough?  (I'd take a grand for it in a
        heartbeat and put it towards a modern TIG/stick unit)
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 8:13
          AM Cecil Bearden <<a href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p>At a Farm sale about 3 months ago, an old 225 AC/DC
              Lincoln went for  $1200, the leads were about to fall
              apart.  It looked like it had a rod holder from 1945!!<br>
              Cecil<br>
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            <div>On 12/23/2019 6:30 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hold on, you say old LIncoln tombstones go
                for a grand?  How old do they have to be?  I've got a
                225 AC/DC that I picked up at an auction for $50, had to
                be 20 years ago, and it was certainly not new then.  As
                a wild guess I'd say it must be late '70's to early
                80's.  Externally it doesn't seem much different from
                modern ones and I greatly doubt mine is old enough to be
                worth anything.  Curious though.
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                <div>SO</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2019
                  at 6:22 PM Cecil Bearden <<a
                    href="mailto:crbearden@copper.net" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">crbearden@copper.net</a>>
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                    <p>I always wanted an old Lincoln "tombstone"225
                      AC/DC welder.  They sell at auction for over
                      $1000.    An old local farmer had an estate
                      auction and I was at the back of the crowd when
                      his Lincoln Tombstone welder came up for auction. 
                      I got it for $400, but after I got it home is was
                      a tombstone, but it was AC only.....  I finally
                      got the chance to buy one on Craigs list for
                      $600.  Then a year later I bought 4 that had been
                      rebuilt for a VO-Tech out west for $450 for the
                      lot!!!   I first welded with one of them during
                      college at OSU.  I fell in love with the welder.  
                      Those welders have an open arc voltage of about
                      90V.  They will make you jump when welding on wet
                      stuff...  However, they run 7018 LH as pretty as
                      you could ever want.  I have mounted one on a 15KW
                      generator for a portable welder.  It works great
                      and I have plenty of power to run grinders etc. <br>
                      Cecil<br>
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                    <div>On 12/22/2019 2:59 PM, <a
                        href="mailto:deanvp@att.net" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">deanvp@att.net</a> wrote:<br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="color:windowtext">I purchased my used
                            Lincoln 225 AMP arc welder for $100 at a
                            swap meet. It is quite old. I haven’t taken
                            the time to try to figure out how old but I
                            wanted to buy an older one after looking at
                            new ones. I looked at the guts of a new one
                            vs how the old ones were built and decided
                            an old one would last longer and probably
                            weld better.  I’ve had it 10 years and it is
                            ready to go every time I need it.  IMHO,
                            sometimes new isn’t always better. </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color:windowtext">Dean VP</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color:windowtext">Snohomish, WA
                              98290</span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                  style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                                style="color:windowtext"> AT <a
                                  href="mailto:at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><at-bounces@lists.antique-tractor.com></a>
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike M<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2019
                                9:38 AM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> <a
                                  href="mailto:at@lists.antique-tractor.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">at@lists.antique-tractor.com</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AT] Antique
                                tractors that are too expensive</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">I've
                          also seen people bid way too high, they get
                          caught up in the excitement. I was standing
                          next to a guy who was bidding on an old
                          tombstone welder. I wanted it too. I think he
                          ended up paying $300 for it. You could buy a
                          new one for less than that. It's pays to know
                          what things cost before bidding on them. I was
                          bidding, but dropped out at $150, because that
                          is all I was willing to pay.<br>
                          <br>
                          Mike M<br>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/22/2019 12:13 AM,
                            Spencer Yost wrote:</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">We have all seen it:
                                 the tractor the seller is asking way
                                too much for.  Or conversely; why buyers
                                don’t show up for our obviously
                                wonderful tractor that we post in
                                EBay/Craigslist/whatever.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">So listening to
                                podcasts tonight, I ran across a podcast
                                that was discussing many things,
                                including a discussion with a
                                psychologist from Berkeley who was
                                explaining the “endowment effect”. I was
                                unaware of this. Though I had intuited
                                it many times I did not know it was a
                                “thing”.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Long story
                                short it explains why people often seem
                                to ask way more for a tractor that I’m
                                willing to pay.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                                  href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_effect</a></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C34&q=endowment+effect&oq=endowment+</a></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Interestingly, this
                                is true regardless of how long they
                                owned it or whether it had any other
                                type (e.g. nostalgia) of value. </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, the
                                podcast did not describe how I, the
                                buyer, could negotiate my way around
                                this.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">PS:   I will be that
                                seller if I ever sell the Pacer. (-;</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Spencer</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p>
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