[AT] How had the group changed
STEVE ALLEN
steveallen855 at centurytel.net
Sun Dec 15 17:59:34 PST 2019
I'm not nearly as active as many of you, and I have only met a couple other members in person, but I joined sometime around '97, I think. I still have the same JD A & B--and, no, I *still* don't have those rear tires off (health issues and work getting in the way but maybe over the Christmastide). I have benefitted from the collective knowledge (and contributed just a very tiny amount) and enjoyed just letting the fellowship wash over me.
A profound Thank You to Spencer but also to all of you for all that you contribute and all that you care.
The "original" Steve Allen
'47 JD B & '48 JD A near Rolla, MO
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1. Re: How had the group changed (Dean Vinson)
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3. Re: How had the group changed (Roger Moffat)
4. Re: How had the group changed (DonThiel)
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 18:08:16 -0500
From: "Dean Vinson" <dean at vinsonfarm.net>
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Lots of good memories all around. I remember thinking, around 1996 or 1997, that it?d be a waste of time to search the internet for stuff about old tractors because the kind of folks who tinker with old tractors wouldn?t be using their stubby, dinged-up, oil-stained fingers on something as frivolous as setting up web pages. I was of course pleasantly surprised to be so colossally wrong. :)
I later set up a couple of pages about the 98 gathering and the travels of the ATIS boxes. Not exactly high-tech or high-res, but still kind of fun to look back on.
http://www.vinsonfarm.net/portland98_atis.html.
http://www.vinsonfarm.net/atisbox.html.
Hank Wessell was another of the early members, and was a big John Deere fan as I recall. He stopped by my dad?s farm in northeast Ohio one summer day and helped me and my brothers and dad rebuild a little stone wall at the base of an embankment behind the house. He was a complete gentleman.
And Ken, wow, yes? Ray Crispen. That was an unusual period alright. Was it him that came back briefly as ?John Kennedy? after Spencer politely explained that his services were no longer needed?
Dean Vinson
Saint Paris OH
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I came aboard in the late 90's but I think it might have been after Forsyth. All I remember for sure was Ray Crispen flaming my introductory message but I didn't realize it until several others basically told me privately that he was special. It's always been a great group and about 10 years ago I finally made it to Portland, got my "plow the net" pin and got to see the spectacular show and met a couple of the Dotson brothers there.
I recall the world traveled Blue Handle Fence Pliers, the updates on the boxes among other epic escapades (like Cecil and the Firetruck). I found out that I had a neighbor (Larry Molitor) that lived about 1/4 mile away as a fellow list member.
I made it to Tulare before that and got to meet Karl Olmstead who "knew a guy" that got me a "parts" tractor. Turns out it was Case DV which was somewhat rare and I decided to see if it was salvageable. Well, I backed it off the trailer, fixed the bad bearing on the bevel shaft and had to look for other "parts" tractors since that one was suddenly a runner. I did finally get the DH running but still haven't gotten it painted. My son likes these old tractors so I'm trying to raise a future "list member". :)
Dean VP visited me and I also had one of the Waugh brothers visit. Every one I've met from this august list has been great and I would like to meet more so I guess I need to get back to Portland again. :)
Thanks again Spencer for all your ongoing efforts!
Ken in AZ
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:56 PM Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com> > wrote:
Dave Merchant was an early regular I believe as was Blake Malkamackie (sp???) the Cletrac guy. I think I met Don Bowen fairly early at Portland. Was the lady in New Zealand Dorothy Parsons? She and a group of ladies she was traveling with visited the farm here one time.
With only a couple of exceptions this list has always been amazing and I was honored to have some pictures of a few of my old tractors in one of Spencer's books. That involved a very nice visit.
Every good memory stirs up several more...
******
I think one of the things that hurt us as a group more than about anything was when the Portland club quit letting us show all of our tractors all in the one busy place and shoved us over "behind the shed" at the far corner away from about everything. That was when the show lost much of its magic for me...
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com> > wrote:
It may be hard given the number of people in some of those pictures, but can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?
Mike M
On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:
Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.
- Richard Walker
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It is indeed good to revive all of the memories I have heard the last couple of days. I feel like I personally know virtually all of the folks who have written with fond memories.
I cannot remember when I first became acquainted with ATIS but I do know it was in the early Forsythe County era. My wife, Vera, and I first met Spencer at a Pfafftown Rust and Dust tractor show. He was piloting the famous Massey Harris pony in the tractor pull at the time. I cannot remember if we made the Portland show that year or not but I do know we made several Portland shows after that.
My wife Vera passed away September 6, 2015. I do not know if she enjoyed those shows as much as I did but I do know she enjoyed the camaraderie of the members and their wives as much as I did.
I can only hope that this friendship can continue because I devour everything that is posted every day and sincerely miss it when nothing is happening.
Thank you very much Spencer for your efforts in keeping this all together.
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Not sure exactly when I joined - sometime around 1999-2000 probably - that?s about when my father in law gave me a 1948 Farmall Cub, and a number of implements for it - plough, blade, middle and rear cultivators, and a rear mower (Wood brand I think). I?ve used the blade a lot, the cultivators some, and the plough and rear mower not at all.
Roger in West Michigan
> On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
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> ?The list started in 1993 as an offshoot of misc.rural Usenet group. Just too many homesteaders and chicken folks there on misc.rural to get anything good about antique tractors. A gopher server followed in early 1994 with the web site in late 1994.
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> In 1994, Brice started the engine list at Indiana University. It folded into ATIS a few years later. Both lists got kicked off the Forsyth county government servers in 1997 and we?ve been on own since then.
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> I was the first member obviously but about 125 people signed up within the first several weeks so there is probably 126 people who rightfully can call themselves the oldest. I?ll bet a dozen or two of them are still with us. Brice Adams and Steve Sewell come to mind. Herb Metz, Farmer, Steve Offlier, John Thompson, Richard walker, and one or more of the Dotson brothers (?wagon master? Gene is still here). The Waugh brothers were pretty early too and Gene Waugh is still with us.
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> In August 1994 we had 25-30 people at the first ATIS gathering. Considering a participation rate of only a few percent we had already become quite large by then.
>
> I use to have backups that could answer this question but about 2002 I realized I?d never have a tape drive again and had to chuck them (-; Even then, I?m not sure analytics could help. Many of those earliest members have switched ISPs three or four times and I?m not sure we could trace addresses.
>
> There are still 250-350 list members. I use pretty aggressive bounce processing rules so they are all good addresses receiving mail. Even if a third of them forward our mail to the trash folder instead of actually unsubscribing I?ll bet at least 150-200 folks read our posts fairly regularly.
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 18:26:48 -0600
From: DonThiel <dwt at rrt.net>
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I've been around since sometime in the 90s/Forsyth County also. Changed
ISPs, well, actually, my local phone coop has always been my ISP, but
they've changed names as technology (and downstream providers) have changed.
I have always enjoyed the light conversation from many very intelligent
folks, most of which have more information than I, so I normally just
sit back and 'listen'.??? Since I am in ND, which tends to be chilly
this time of year, I am personally glad that Ralph takes all the grief
for cold weather. Thanks, Ralph!? :-)
I recall the hammer handle thread, but not the actual educational
post.?? How about that rerun, Farmer?
Don Thiel
Hankinson, ND
On 12/15/2019 7:00 AM, John Hall wrote:
> Well I'm in the late 90's group of ATIS members.? Somewhere between
> 97-99 we came out of the dark ages and got a computer and internet.
>
> Ok, I'll bite--Farmer, what are these guys talking about regarding
> changing hammer handles? Never thought it was that complicated--maybe
> I'm just lucky? I've got to replace the handle in my favorite big
> hammer, it finally broke after 30+ years. Going to have to scour the
> net to find one--ain't no hardware stores of that type around. This
> isn't a claw or ball pein, its about 2+lbs and one end shaped as a
> wedge. Done a whole lot of fixing farm equipment with this one.
>
> John Hall
>
> On 12/15/2019 3:03 AM, Ron Cook wrote:
>>
>> I am a fairly late member.? I was recuperating from a crash in my
>> spray plane in 2003 and was stuck in the house in a wheel chair
>> killing time on the computer.? I had plenty of time to kill.? Not
>> sure how I came to this great group.? I was too late to LeSueur MN
>> 2004 swap meet to get in the photo, but I did get to meet Cecil
>> Monson in person and visit with him. Great guy.
>>
>> Farmer, I need to replace a hammer handle.? I could use you posting.
>>
>> Ron Cook, Salix, IA
>>
>> On 12/14/2019 11:37 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>> Lots and lots of memories over the years. One that I recall was one
>>> year hammer handles came up and I did a post with a step by step on
>>> how to replace them. Later that year I had backed our travel trailer
>>> back into that one spot Diana always wanted us to use at Portland.
>>> As I finished up another trailer backed in beside us and before
>>> doing anything else Cecil Monson jumped out of the truck and hurried
>>> over to me carrying a hammer. He was truly excited that he had been
>>> able to replace that handle successfully, saying that he had tried
>>> before but could never get it right. Funny the things you remember...
>>>
>>> image.pnger
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:29 PM Indiana Robinson
>>> <robinson46176 at gmail.com <mailto:robinson46176 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a
>>> blue shirt and red, white and blue suspenders.
>>> I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so
>>> close (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one
>>> tractor.
>>> I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I
>>> can still hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product)
>>> late at night and telling George Willer, "You better quit
>>> drinking George, you are looking fuzzy..."
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
>>> <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It may be hard given the number of people in some of those
>>> pictures, but can someone put faces with names in some of
>>> the photos?
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.
>>>>
>>>> -? Richard Walker
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