[AT] AT Digest, Vol 23, Issue 18

Dana Johnson djohnson18972 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 14 22:15:39 PST 2019


I still have a t shirt with a plowing the web and a county url. Not much of
a contributor but I have read a lot and learned a lot.  I have no welding
skills or equipment. I grew up on a dairy farm in Se Ohio  we had an oh
 756 and a super m and a super c.  I finally tracked down the super c but
the other two were lost at auction in 1973 when I was a junior in high
school.  My dad kept the super c
To work his small orchard and gardens and I bought it in 2003 after his
death in 2001. I still have it. But my daughter has no interest in it nor
the Ford jubilee. My modern tractor is a jd 3320 loader tractor  to move
snow, wood and gravel on my 12 acres.  L

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> From: Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com>
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> Yep, you were one of the early ones too, Louis. I?m sure I forgot several
> names. Kim and Chris Pratt came to mind right after my post.  They were one
> of the very earliest ones too.   There was a moment in the mid 90s where I
> had to decide if I wanted to commercialize ATIS or not. I decided this had
> to be about  people and community and couldn?t be about money. I remember
> Chris disagreeing and wanted it to be more.  They then started Yesterday?s
> tractors in 96/97 time frame.
>
> I hated to see them go. Especially with the business model they wanted to
> use where they sell Cheap Chinese crap, bad xeroxes of manuals, and
> advertisements. I know there?s a lot of people there and many of them are
> very smart and knowledgeable. But the whole thing always seemed phony when
> juxtaposed against  the heritage of the  men and women that plowed the
> prairies.
>
> Spencer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:47 PM, louis at kellnet.com wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I remember joining in the early days. It had to be 93 or 94. I remember
> seeing something about ATIS in an antique tractor magazine. Unfortunately,
> I'm not as active on the site as I used to be. I am still actively
> restoring tractors.
> >
> > Louis Spiegelberg
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2019 8:33 PM, Spencer Yost <spencer at rdfarms.com> wrote:
> > ?
> > ?
> > ?The list started in 1993 as an offshoot of misc.rural Usenet group.
>  Just too many homesteaders and chicken folks there on misc.rural to get
> anything good about antique tractors.   A gopher server followed in early
> 1994 with the web site in late 1994.
> >
> > In 1994, Brice started the engine list at Indiana University.   It
> folded into ATIS a few years later.    Both lists got kicked off the
> Forsyth county government servers in 1997 and we?ve been on own since then.
> >
> > I was the first member obviously but about 125 people signed up within
> the first several weeks so there is probably 126 people who rightfully can
> call themselves the oldest.  I?ll bet a dozen or two of them are still with
> us.   Brice Adams and Steve Sewell come to mind.  Herb Metz, Farmer, Steve
> Offlier, John Thompson, Richard walker, and one or more of the Dotson
> brothers (?wagon master? Gene is still here).  The Waugh brothers were
> pretty early too and Gene Waugh is still with us.
> >
> > In August 1994 we had 25-30 people at the first ATIS gathering.
>  Considering a participation rate of only a few percent we had already
> become quite large by then.
> >
> > I use to have backups that could answer this question  but about 2002 I
> realized I?d never have a tape drive again and had to chuck them (-;  Even
> then, I?m not sure analytics could help. Many of those earliest members
> have switched ISPs three or four times and I?m not sure we could trace
> addresses.
> >
> > There are still 250-350 list members.  I use pretty aggressive bounce
> processing rules so they are all good addresses receiving mail.  Even if a
> third of them forward our mail to the trash folder instead of actually
> unsubscribing  I?ll bet at least 150-200 folks read our posts fairly
> regularly.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > ? What amazes me is how long the list has been around. I joined in 1996
> and i know their are members that are more senior than myself. How long has
> ATIS been around?
> >
> > Mike M
> >
> >
> > On 12/14/2019 8:29 AM, HERBERT METZ wrote:
> > One of the many benefits of this group is the exceptional fellowship. We
> sure enjoyed Warrens visit. Warren told us of the program that Clemson had
> for participating in the lunar eclipse.  Barbara and I really enjoyed
> participating.
> > One of the perks of visiting the Clemson Campus, as one approached the
> campus, was a nice sign, IIRC, Clemson Campus is a smoke free campus.
> Herb(GA)
> > On December 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, Herb Metz is the only member I ever met in person, but have sure
> corresponded with many more- some departed. My visit with Herb was
> delightful and I know meeting more of our group would be more of the same.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM HERBERT METZ < metz-h.b at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > Tyler,
> > Yes, Barbara and I sure enjoyed your visit. Let us know if you plan
> another visit to Georgia.
> > We bought the G with end loader in southeast IA and have been to several
> tractor shows in north central IA.  You were probably 'knee high to a
> grasshopper' about that time.  But never to south west IA; would be great
> to reciprocate if we ever get in your area.  Herb(GA)
> >
> > > On December 3, 2019 at 4:17 PM Tyler Juranek < tylerpolkaman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I certainly haven't been here that long, but the time that I have been
> > > on I have really enjoyed.
> > > Everyone is so friendly, and what I enjoy most is all of the great
> > > story telling!
> > > Farmer deffinately has some good stories, some of which remind me of
> > > my grandpa Juranek, who is still with us, but doesn't really do
> > > anything with the old tractors anymore. He still has the oliver 66
> > > that he bought when dad was a senior in high school.
> > > It is really a shame that many of my generation don't care about old
> > > iron. JD A's and B's don't bring much around here anymore, and most of
> > > the people who have them at the shows are "grandpa to everybody there"
> > > guys. :)
> > > I do remember one time taking a trip down to Georgia to visit some
> > > family, and somehow or another, I found my way to Herb Metz's place!
> > > He and his wife Barbra are two amazing people, and the equipment he
> > > has tells quite a story.
> > > I still have a picture of Herb and I standing by his Allis G with a
> > > loader on it. I came home and shared it with some relatives of mine,
> > > and nobody even knew that Allis made a loader for a G.
> > > Would like to meet more folks on here in person, but I don't do much
> > > traveling as I cannot get away from my business very long. Am hoping
> > > to get a guide dog by next year at this time.
> > > If anyone gets down to the southwest part of Iowa, speak up. Always
> > > good to meet folks on here.
> > > Take Care,
> > > Tyler Juranek
> > > IA
> > >
> > > On 12/3/19, Stephen Offiler < soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I was just hunting for some old photos the other day and came across
> a
> > > > whole photo album from Portland, I think '98.  This was the year
> with the
> > > > passing of the box and Spencer's Pacer smoking the belt on the
> dyno.   I
> > > > need to scan those, I suppose...
> > > >
> > > > SO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:10 AM Bill Brueck < b2 at chooka.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> For a few seasons I was able to capture group ATIS pictures at the
> spring
> > > >> swap meet in LeSueur, MN.  This started with the passing of the
> ATIS box.
> > > >> Indeed, lots of folks missing by now.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> www.apluscomputer.com/atis
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I also picked up a couple of the custom ATIS oak battery boxes that
> sold
> > > >> at the annual Christmas auction.   Alas, they are still awaiting
> engine
> > > >> restorations to put them to service.  Beautiful work, included the
> ATIS
> > > >> logo inscribed into the lids.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Bill Brueck
> > > >>
> > > >>    Pine Island, MN
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> In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue shirt
> and red, white and blue suspenders.
> I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close
> (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.
> I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can still
> hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at night and
> telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you are looking
> fuzzy..."
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> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
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> > It may be hard given the number of people in some of those pictures, but
> > can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?
> >
> > Mike M
> >
> > On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:
> >
> > Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.
> >
> > -  Richard Walker
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> Yup, that was HL. I miss HL and George's input here. By the way, I can't
> remember if I told the list that Jim Pfrommer passed this year. Sometime
> about August, I think. He was another of the unique individuals on this
> list.
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> Phil in TX
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> On 12/14/2019 10:29 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> > In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue
> > shirt and red, white and blue suspenders.
> > I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close
> > (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.
> > I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can
> > still hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at
> > night and telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you
> > are looking fuzzy..."
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com
> > <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     It may be hard given the number of people in some of those
> >     pictures, but can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?
> >
> >     Mike M
> >
> >     On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:
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> >>     Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.
> >>
> >>     -? Richard Walker
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> Lots and lots of memories over the years. One that I recall was one year
> hammer handles came up and I did a post with a step by step on how to
> replace them. Later that year I had backed our travel trailer back into
> that one spot Diana always wanted us to use at Portland. As I finished up
> another trailer backed in beside us and before doing anything else Cecil
> Monson jumped out of the truck and hurried over to me carrying a hammer. He
> was truly excited that he had been able to replace that handle
> successfully, saying that he had tried before but could never get it right.
> Funny the things you remember...
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> [image: image.png]
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> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:29 PM Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
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> > In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue
> > shirt and red, white and blue suspenders.
> > I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close
> > (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.
> > I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can
> still
> > hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at night and
> > telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you are looking
> > fuzzy..."
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It may be hard given the number of people in some of those pictures, but
> >> can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?
> >>
> >> Mike M
> >>
> >> On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:
> >>
> >> Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.
> >>
> >> -  Richard Walker
> >>
> >>
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> > Francis Robinson
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