<div><div dir="auto">I still have a t shirt with a plowing the web and a county url. Not much of a contributor but I have read a lot and learned a lot. I have no welding skills or equipment. I grew up on a dairy farm in Se Ohio we had an oh 756 and a super m and a super c. I finally tracked down the super c but the other two were lost at auction in 1973 when I was a junior in high school. My dad kept the super c</div></div><div><div dir="auto">To work his small orchard and gardens and I bought it in 2003 after his death in 2001. I still have it. But my daughter has no interest in it nor the Ford jubilee. My modern tractor is a jd 3320 loader tractor to move snow, wood and gravel on my 12 acres. L</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 12:57 AM <<a href="mailto:at-request@lists.antique-tractor.com">at-request@lists.antique-tractor.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send AT mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 22:58:41 -0500<br>
From: Spencer Yost <<a href="mailto:spencer@rdfarms.com" target="_blank">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>><br>
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Yep, you were one of the early ones too, Louis. I?m sure I forgot several names. Kim and Chris Pratt came to mind right after my post. They were one of the very earliest ones too. There was a moment in the mid 90s where I had to decide if I wanted to commercialize ATIS or not. I decided this had to be about people and community and couldn?t be about money. I remember Chris disagreeing and wanted it to be more. They then started Yesterday?s tractors in 96/97 time frame. <br>
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I hated to see them go. Especially with the business model they wanted to use where they sell Cheap Chinese crap, bad xeroxes of manuals, and advertisements. I know there?s a lot of people there and many of them are very smart and knowledgeable. But the whole thing always seemed phony when juxtaposed against the heritage of the men and women that plowed the prairies.<br>
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Spencer<br>
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> On Dec 14, 2019, at 8:47 PM, <a href="mailto:louis@kellnet.com" target="_blank">louis@kellnet.com</a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> I remember joining in the early days. It had to be 93 or 94. I remember seeing something about ATIS in an antique tractor magazine. Unfortunately, I'm not as active on the site as I used to be. I am still actively restoring tractors.<br>
> <br>
> Louis Spiegelberg <br>
> <br>
> On Dec 14, 2019 8:33 PM, Spencer Yost <<a href="mailto:spencer@rdfarms.com" target="_blank">spencer@rdfarms.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ?<br>
> ?<br>
> ?The list started in 1993 as an offshoot of misc.rural Usenet group. Just too many homesteaders and chicken folks there on misc.rural to get anything good about antique tractors. A gopher server followed in early 1994 with the web site in late 1994.<br>
> <br>
> In 1994, Brice started the engine list at Indiana University. It folded into ATIS a few years later. Both lists got kicked off the Forsyth county government servers in 1997 and we?ve been on own since then.<br>
> <br>
> I was the first member obviously but about 125 people signed up within the first several weeks so there is probably 126 people who rightfully can call themselves the oldest. I?ll bet a dozen or two of them are still with us. Brice Adams and Steve Sewell come to mind. Herb Metz, Farmer, Steve Offlier, John Thompson, Richard walker, and one or more of the Dotson brothers (?wagon master? Gene is still here). The Waugh brothers were pretty early too and Gene Waugh is still with us. <br>
> <br>
> In August 1994 we had 25-30 people at the first ATIS gathering. Considering a participation rate of only a few percent we had already become quite large by then.<br>
> <br>
> I use to have backups that could answer this question but about 2002 I realized I?d never have a tape drive again and had to chuck them (-; Even then, I?m not sure analytics could help. Many of those earliest members have switched ISPs three or four times and I?m not sure we could trace addresses.<br>
> <br>
> There are still 250-350 list members. I use pretty aggressive bounce processing rules so they are all good addresses receiving mail. Even if a third of them forward our mail to the trash folder instead of actually unsubscribing I?ll bet at least 150-200 folks read our posts fairly regularly.<br>
> <br>
> Spencer<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On Dec 14, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ? What amazes me is how long the list has been around. I joined in 1996 and i know their are members that are more senior than myself. How long has ATIS been around?<br>
> <br>
> Mike M<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 12/14/2019 8:29 AM, HERBERT METZ wrote:<br>
> One of the many benefits of this group is the exceptional fellowship. We sure enjoyed Warrens visit. Warren told us of the program that Clemson had for participating in the lunar eclipse. Barbara and I really enjoyed participating.<br>
> One of the perks of visiting the Clemson Campus, as one approached the campus, was a nice sign, IIRC, Clemson Campus is a smoke free campus. Herb(GA) <br>
> On December 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM Mogrits <<a href="mailto:mogrits@gmail.com" target="_blank">mogrits@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> Sadly, Herb Metz is the only member I ever met in person, but have sure corresponded with many more- some departed. My visit with Herb was delightful and I know meeting more of our group would be more of the same.<br>
> <br>
> Warren<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:03 AM HERBERT METZ < <a href="mailto:metz-h.b@comcast.net" target="_blank">metz-h.b@comcast.net</a>> wrote: <br>
> Tyler, <br>
> Yes, Barbara and I sure enjoyed your visit. Let us know if you plan another visit to Georgia. <br>
> We bought the G with end loader in southeast IA and have been to several tractor shows in north central IA. You were probably 'knee high to a grasshopper' about that time. But never to south west IA; would be great to reciprocate if we ever get in your area. Herb(GA) <br>
> <br>
> > On December 3, 2019 at 4:17 PM Tyler Juranek < <a href="mailto:tylerpolkaman@gmail.com" target="_blank">tylerpolkaman@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Hi, <br>
> > I certainly haven't been here that long, but the time that I have been <br>
> > on I have really enjoyed. <br>
> > Everyone is so friendly, and what I enjoy most is all of the great <br>
> > story telling! <br>
> > Farmer deffinately has some good stories, some of which remind me of <br>
> > my grandpa Juranek, who is still with us, but doesn't really do <br>
> > anything with the old tractors anymore. He still has the oliver 66 <br>
> > that he bought when dad was a senior in high school. <br>
> > It is really a shame that many of my generation don't care about old <br>
> > iron. JD A's and B's don't bring much around here anymore, and most of <br>
> > the people who have them at the shows are "grandpa to everybody there"<br>
> > guys. :) <br>
> > I do remember one time taking a trip down to Georgia to visit some <br>
> > family, and somehow or another, I found my way to Herb Metz's place! <br>
> > He and his wife Barbra are two amazing people, and the equipment he <br>
> > has tells quite a story. <br>
> > I still have a picture of Herb and I standing by his Allis G with a <br>
> > loader on it. I came home and shared it with some relatives of mine, <br>
> > and nobody even knew that Allis made a loader for a G. <br>
> > Would like to meet more folks on here in person, but I don't do much <br>
> > traveling as I cannot get away from my business very long. Am hoping <br>
> > to get a guide dog by next year at this time. <br>
> > If anyone gets down to the southwest part of Iowa, speak up. Always <br>
> > good to meet folks on here. <br>
> > Take Care, <br>
> > Tyler Juranek <br>
> > IA <br>
> > <br>
> > On 12/3/19, Stephen Offiler < <a href="mailto:soffiler@gmail.com" target="_blank">soffiler@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>
> > > I was just hunting for some old photos the other day and came across a<br>
> > > whole photo album from Portland, I think '98. This was the year with the <br>
> > > passing of the box and Spencer's Pacer smoking the belt on the dyno. I <br>
> > > need to scan those, I suppose... <br>
> > > <br>
> > > SO <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:10 AM Bill Brueck < <a href="mailto:b2@chooka.net" target="_blank">b2@chooka.net</a>> wrote: <br>
> > > <br>
> > >> For a few seasons I was able to capture group ATIS pictures at the spring <br>
> > >> swap meet in LeSueur, MN. This started with the passing of the ATIS box.<br>
> > >> Indeed, lots of folks missing by now. <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <a href="http://www.apluscomputer.com/atis" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.apluscomputer.com/atis</a> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> I also picked up a couple of the custom ATIS oak battery boxes that sold<br>
> > >> at the annual Christmas auction. Alas, they are still awaiting engine <br>
> > >> restorations to put them to service. Beautiful work, included the ATIS <br>
> > >> logo inscribed into the lids. <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> Bill Brueck <br>
> > >> <br>
> > >> Pine Island, MN <br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:29:38 -0500<br>
From: Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>><br>
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In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue shirt<br>
and red, white and blue suspenders.<br>
I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close<br>
(about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.<br>
I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can still<br>
hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at night and<br>
telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you are looking<br>
fuzzy..."<br>
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> It may be hard given the number of people in some of those pictures, but<br>
> can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?<br>
><br>
> Mike M<br>
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> On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:<br>
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> Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.<br>
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> - Richard Walker<br>
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From: Phil Auten <<a href="mailto:pga2@basicisp.net" target="_blank">pga2@basicisp.net</a>><br>
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Yup, that was HL. I miss HL and George's input here. By the way, I can't <br>
remember if I told the list that Jim Pfrommer passed this year. Sometime <br>
about August, I think. He was another of the unique individuals on this <br>
list.<br>
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On 12/14/2019 10:29 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:<br>
> In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue <br>
> shirt and red, white and blue suspenders.<br>
> I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close <br>
> (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.<br>
> I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can <br>
> still hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at <br>
> night and telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you <br>
> are looking fuzzy..."<br>
><br>
><br>
> .<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> It may be hard given the number of people in some of those<br>
> pictures, but can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?<br>
><br>
> Mike M<br>
><br>
> On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:<br>
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>> Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.<br>
>><br>
>> -? Richard Walker<br>
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:37:55 -0500<br>
From: Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Lots and lots of memories over the years. One that I recall was one year<br>
hammer handles came up and I did a post with a step by step on how to<br>
replace them. Later that year I had backed our travel trailer back into<br>
that one spot Diana always wanted us to use at Portland. As I finished up<br>
another trailer backed in beside us and before doing anything else Cecil<br>
Monson jumped out of the truck and hurried over to me carrying a hammer. He<br>
was truly excited that he had been able to replace that handle<br>
successfully, saying that he had tried before but could never get it right.<br>
Funny the things you remember...<br>
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[image: image.png]<br>
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:29 PM Indiana Robinson <<a href="mailto:robinson46176@gmail.com" target="_blank">robinson46176@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> In the pic with Spencer holding the box I am behind Spencer in a blue<br>
> shirt and red, white and blue suspenders.<br>
> I have no idea which tractor I took that year but since I am so close<br>
> (about 2 hours) I never went without taking at least one tractor.<br>
> I seem to recall H.L. Staples being kind of early as a member? I can still<br>
> hear him around the fire (usually a Dotson product) late at night and<br>
> telling George Willer, "You better quit drinking George, you are looking<br>
> fuzzy..."<br>
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> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:46 PM Mike M <<a href="mailto:meulenms@gmx.com" target="_blank">meulenms@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> It may be hard given the number of people in some of those pictures, but<br>
>> can someone put faces with names in some of the photos?<br>
>><br>
>> Mike M<br>
>><br>
>> On 12/14/2019 10:33 PM, Richard Walker wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Portland 1998, the year of the boxes.<br>
>><br>
>> - Richard Walker<br>
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