[AT] Kinda Antique Tractor Question

[Stephen Offiler]

Some plugs don't have washers; they have a beveled sealing surface.  I've
never seen a washer fall off.  Image:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/autolite-copper-resistor-spark-plug-103/5390346-P

SO


On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 6:02 PM Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:

> Glad you were able to find the problem, Craig. Those washers aren't
> supposed to come off, but they obviously did somewhere. Did you buy the
> unit new or used?
>
> Phil in TX
>
> On 11/30/2019 11:52 AM, craig.warner47346 at frontier.com wrote:
>
> The winner is....no washers on plugs. What a dumbass mistake. They rarely
> fall off and o never thought to check. Too bad there is nobody to blame
> other than me. Thanks guys.
>
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> On Saturday, November 30, 2019, 11:57 AM, Jim Becker
> <mr.jebecker at gmail.com> <mr.jebecker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My exact thought too.  It seems more likely that a set of projected tip
> plugs were installed where there isn’t enough room for them.
>
> Jim Becker
>
> *From:* Stephen Offiler
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:53 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Kinda Antique Tractor Question
>
> The thing about the carbon hypothesis is that this is a twin, and it's
> happening on both cylinders, sounds like both affected equally.  Doesn't
> seem like a random chunk of carbon causing the issue would occur equally in
> both.
>
> SO
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 11:37 AM deanvp <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
> It could be carbon floating around in the combustion chamber but also
> consider that when the engine warms up expansion might cause zero clearance
> between the ground side of the plug and the piston or valve. Check to see
> what are the recommended plugs vs what are currently installed.  Also
> consider high RPM might play a role as well.
>
>
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: craig.warner47346 at frontier.com
> Date: 11/29/19 9:32 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Kinda Antique Tractor Question
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> I don’t know a whole lot about the engine... not sure if it’s OHV or not.
>
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> On Friday, November 29, 2019, 8:17 PM, Phil Auten <pga2 at basicisp.net>
> wrote:
>
> The first thing that comes to mind is the piston contacting the ground
> terminal of the plug. But if that were the case there would be noise, I
> would think, and the starting would revert to terrible quickly. Perhaps
> there is a piece of carbon floating around inside the cylinder that
> occasionally gets pinched between the piston and the plug? I just can't
> visualize anything else. If the head isn't to difficult to get to you might
> pull it and check for something like that. Is that a flathead or an OHV
> engine?
>
> Phil in TX
>
> On 11/29/2019 6:11 PM, craig.warner47346 at frontier.com wrote:
> I’ve got a question that’s kinda antique tractor related (depending on how
> you define antique.) I have a 1992 Ingersoll 6018 with an Onan 16hp motor.
> It usually starts and runs great. Last few weeks it’s been terrible to
> start but then runs fine. I pulled the plugs today and the gap was close to
> nothing in both of them. Opened the gap to.030 and it fired right up. Why
> would the plug gap close? I had issues with them this spring and set it at
> that point.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
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