[AT] 430V update

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Sun Oct 29 20:22:08 PDT 2017


I own a few Leinbach implements all the way out here on the opposite coast.
They have performed quite well and have no real complaints.  I did have one
problem with their scoop. The three point pin spacing for the draft arms
were too narrow for my JD 750.   Since the anti-sway chains on my JD750
attach to the inside of the draft arms, even with the absolute minimum chain
length, I couldn't keep the scoop from hitting the rear tires.  .As a
Band-Aid I added at many washers to each mounting pin as I could to spread
the draft arms and that helped a whole bunch. I Haven't taken the time to
find out which, the tractor or the scoop, didn't meet the ASAE three point
specifications. At this late date is kind of a moot point

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] 430V update

Yep!   Failure to lift creates interesting turf sculptures....

I like to plug instead of aerate because it does not close back up as
quickly.   In slightly damp soil conditions like I have right now this
machine will plug 1-2 inch holes.  The only downside to this machine is if
your soil is dry it's just going to bounce around on the top so you have to
watch soil conditions a little more than you would with the aerator.

I will spread manure and lime next. Besides improving general aeration, I
believe the holes  help improve integration of those materials, if ever so
slightly.

Speaking of Leinbach yard:  I got my Massey grain drill from them.  1950s
model.   Several years later  I thought I'd be smart and start renting the
county's no till drill instead of over seeding with that Massey Harris. So I
sold the Massey Harris. What a big mistake. I got noticeably better
germination rates with the MH than I do with the county's no till drill.   I
think the new drill puts it to deep even though it's specifically designed
for forage/grasses and shouldn't.

By the way when you were at Leinbach's yard you were maybe 4 miles from my
house. Go 2 miles west towards river go about 2 miles south and you're at my
house.  Manufacturing was in East bend and had been for a number of years
prior to the yard closing down. And technically the yard didn't  close down
- they just moved all their stuff to the East Bend factory and  in the
process they thinned their herd ruthlessly and a lot of interesting old
stuff got sent to scrap :-(. A change in generations, a change in management
as a result, and the Great Recession all conspired to put them out for good.
Demographics was not changing in their favor either. Like everywhere across
the country the small family farm that needed the occasional inexpensive,
locally build, small implement has gone  by the wayside . Right before the
great recession it got to the point that I saw more landscapers using their
implements instead of farmers.  


Spencer Yost



Spencer Yost
> On Oct 29, 2017, at 2:32 PM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Haven't seen one like that before, basically its an aerator with tips 
> that "PLUG" instead of poke holes.Being 3pt I bet you only forget to 
> lift in the corners once!!  As innocent as that type of equipment 
> looks, it is actually rough on drive trains if you use too small of a 
> machine--especially the ones sized for lawn mowers. I'm thinking one 
> like yours would be nice if it had two independent 3 or 4 ft drums, if 
> you had a lot of ground to cover. For you flat land fellows it is 
> entirely likely in these parts for a 6 or 8' wide ground engaging 
> machine to ride up on the high spots and come completely out of the 
> ground for most of the width of the machine--unless the machine has 
> multiple points of independent movement.
> 
> There is a dealer near here for Artsway, or something like that. Their 
> aerators are rather beefy, and wide--and pricey.
> 
> I just reseed with my no-till drill. The coulters on it do a good job 
> of vertical tillage this time of year. Matter of fact if its a bit 
> wet, they kind of make a mess seeing how hay fields tend to hold 
> moisture better than grain fields.
> 
> I still see some Leinbach machinery on occasion. Used to love to go 
> walk around their used equipment yard. For those that don't know it 
> must have been 3-4 acres of refurbished used equipment. They would 
> have anything from a 4 ft disc harrow to a 30 ft model, all in the 
> same row. Stuff like Spencer has was actually manufactured by them. I 
> bought my 12 ft Duham Lehr culti-mulcher from them. Never will forget 
> that day, I was sick with the flu or something. Picked out the one I 
> wanted and had the salesman write it up. Got them to deliver on a roll 
> back. Just used it last week.
> 
> John Hall
> 
> 
>> On 10/29/2017 11:54 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> Thanks John!
>> 
>> The plugger is a Leinbach brand plugger. It is only 4 feet wide so it
took me two hours to plug 2 acres.  I don't remember it being terribly
expensive, but I don't remember the exact price. If it is expensive I would
remember :-) maybe $400- $500 brand new 10 years ago?   it  has a dual use
as I have  plugged many a yard as well, so it was easy to justify the cost.
>> 
>> Unfortunately Leinbach yard and factory are out of business now or I
would run up the street and price one for you.
>> 
>> Spencer Yost
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 8:45 AM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As tight as that engine was stuck, I'm surprised its not smoking a 
>>> little. You rolled the dice and it paid off well, congratulations.
>>> 
>>> So how about a picture of what you were plugging the pasture with? 
>>> I've seen some pictures of pasture sized aerators and even a plugger 
>>> (I
>>> think) and they are heavy built and EXPENSIVE.
>>> 
>>> John Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/28/2017 5:30 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>> The 430 pulled its weight, literally and figuratively, at the farm
today. Spent two hours plugging the hayfield. Here's a picture. I've also
uploaded the youtube video(link below).
>>>> 
>>>> If you'll notice from the video it is no longer smoking. I declare the
tractor smoke-free. To be completely honest I think I still have a bit at no
load full throttle, but other than that I can't detect any smoke.
>>>> 
>>>> I still have a few things to work on:  I  have a flaky voltage
regulator ( but keeps the battery charged mostly) and a no-load(does great
under load) hunt in the rpm. Still vacuum I think but I haven't been able to
find it yet.
>>>> 
>>>> https://youtu.be/zJENlNhq_NY
>>>> 
>>>> There is a second, longer video there too. But I gave you the link to
the shorter one because the clouds were so dramatic in the shot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Spencer Yost
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