[AT] 430V mysteries

Sun Oct 22 20:17:47 PDT 2017

Yes, trip ropes. Early on I found I could buy trip rope impliments at auctions for $50. After about 20 years I started having bouts of periodic back pain. After about 30 years I realized pulling a trip rope is an unnatural act and causes severe strains on the human body.  This was particularly proven by a certain John Deere chisel that had 2 ropes,one for up and one for down. Every time I used that thing my back would go out.
A neighboring farmer who had employees had a particular disdain for trip rope equipment, insisting on hydraulics. I thought it was snobbery until I realized his workmans comp carrier would not allow him to use it.
At this point back pain is with me all the time. The price one pays for farming on the cheap
Tom
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Sent from myMail for Android Sunday, 22 October 2017, 06:29PM -07:00 from John Hall  jtchall at nc.rr.com :

>Forgot about those control ropes Farmer! I had 2 Oliver superior drills 
>that used them--one was wide enough it had 2 ropes so you could lift 
>only 1/2 of it. Then there was the Deere 30 pull type we had with HA-92 
>power unit. The clutch rope would sometimes get hung on something in a 
>curve and you could hear the load coming off the engine--rope was 
>causing the clutch to slip. That was actually a fun combine to run in wheat.
>
>John Hall
>
>
>On 10/21/2017 8:37 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>> In the 1940's and 1950's a lot of implements used a rope to control
>> something on them. There were a lot of trip rope plows in use. several of
>> our corn pickers had a rope to control a big flap at the top of the wagon
>> elevator to control how far back it threw the ears of corn in the wagon.
>> They also had a rope to turn the wagon elevator off and back on when making
>> a turn. A rope control was pretty standard on a pull type combine to raise
>> and lower the reel in relation to the cutter bar. The John Deere 12A
>> combine we used also had a rope to operate the clutch on the combine's %$#@
>> tiny engine. You had to fasten those ropes somewhere and it usually was to
>> the seat. You just didn't want to use too strong of a rope or if something
>> happened you could yank the seat off.  :-)
>> I am probably missing several other rope uses but it's been a very long
>> day...
>> As to the bolts, maybe the PO liked to carry two shot guns when picking
>> instead of just one...  :-)
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>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Howard Weeks < weeksh at att.net > wrote:
>>
>>> My memory is a bit flaky these days but I think it was designed to hold
>>> up or tie up a 3 point center link when not in use. Also, I think I have
>>> seen a parts manual with some definition of the purpose for that bracket.
>>>
>>> My 430 has one as well.
>>>
>>> Howard in GA
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2017 2:46 PM,  rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:
>>>> Looks like a mount for a light.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 4:49 AM, John Hall < jtchall at nc.rr.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the one in the hood is for a windbreaker or a extra screen or
>>>>> something to cover the grill if running in tall seeded out weeds?
>>>>>
>>>>> The seat bracket, looks factory but awful light duty for an umbrella--to
>>>>> me anyway. Was it for mounting a light?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/2017 11:43 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>>>> I have found two things on the tractor that puzzle me. The first
>>> appears factory, the second is clearly an owner mod. Both of which I do not
>>> know the purpose for. I was hoping somebody may be able to enlighten me.
>>>>>> The first picture is of a small bracket on the seat frame. It really
>>> looks to be like an original factory spot weld. An umbrella holder?
>>>>>> The second is a bolt in the hood (pic is just one side but there's an
>>> identical one on the other side). Judging by the rub marks around them it
>>> appeared to have held something that moved quite a bit. But I can't figure
>>> out what. The only clue I have is I understand the original family I got
>>> the tractor from had an orchard.
>>>>>> I was hoping someone on the list might be able to give me some clues
>>> as to these two items.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>>>
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