[AT] Ram 3.0 liter Dieselgate

[Mike M]

Which is why diesel cars in Europe (hardly a big polluter) get markedly 
better fuel economy from their diesel cars than we do here. Ours may be 
cleaner, by a smidge but at the cost of fuel economy. Burn more diesel, 
the production and transfer of which is not pollution free, and transfer 
the cost to the consumer.  How clean is clean enough? I'll stand down 
now, and just listen, because I cannot argue technical facts with you.

Mike M


On 1/12/2017 6:14 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> Ridiculous?  Or not?  Since VW Dieselgate hit, I've been saying (not to
> ATIS, but out loud, to family and friends) "they all cheat".  I'm a
> soon-to-be-former owner of a VW diesel, and an engineer.  Can't help but be
> fascinated by the whole affair.  Gas engines are much easier to pass
> emissions tests but they still tweak the programs to perform to government
> spec when they're being tested.  Stands to reason that diesel manufacturers
> other than VW realized pretty much the same facts of life as VW, and took
> roughly similar routes to gain emissions certification.
>
>
> SO
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> This is getting ridiculous.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> On 1/12/2017 2:08 PM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/business/epa-emissions-
>> cheating-diesel-fiat-chrysler-jeep-dodge.html?emc=edit_na_
>> 20170112&nlid=31285255&ref=cta
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