[AT] Farm flooding update California - new info

Dave rotigel at me.com
Sat Feb 4 17:13:42 PST 2017


I don’t doubt it happens, Steve. Just wondered why you jumped to that conclusion in your earlier post. 
	Dave
PS, Sorry you live in NY! (Beautiful part where you live, but governed by NYC!)
	
> On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Steve W. <swilliams268 at frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave wrote:
>> I'm a bit confused here. Can someone please explain how the flood
>> happened “because of neglect on the part of the state.” Thanks! Dave
>> 
> 
> The creek that flooded in my area is a NYS protected trout stream. They 
> refused to allow anyone into the area to remove downed trees or 
> blockages that occurred after the major storms that went through the 
> area in the previous years. The state would not grant cleaning permits 
> or any other access because they didn't want the "native rainbow and 
> brook trout habitat disturbed".  Didn't seem to matter that there were 
> NO native trout in the stream and that the only ones in there came from 
> overflows and stocking from the fish hatchery owned by NY near the 
> headwaters of the creek.
> 
> This was proven in court by people who brought suit against the state 
> environmental agencies. NYSDEC was even nailed to the wall by the 
> Governor for their actions, and he's a first class asshole when it comes 
> to helping anyone in upstate.
> 
> stick 42.916833, -74.781580  into google maps and you can see some of 
> the creek as it is today. The marker should pop up with two fields. The 
> field to the northwest was completely submerged and had a 20 foot wide 
> channel cut in it, the dark area was part of it, they didn't fill that 
> all in because it is partly on the states right of way for the road. The 
> second field east of that was hit in a diagonal cut across the southern 
> tip. Both were filled and then covered with 1' of good screened topsoil.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve W.
> 
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