[AT] D10/D12

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The CII Gleaner used the D 19 engine. Ran one on LP gas for a few years. 

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From: "Bradley R Gunnells" <brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu> 
To: "Antique" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:47:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [AT] D10/D12 

Yes the model “E” Gleaner used the 226ci engine. I had one for a few years. When I scrapped the combine I kept the engine hoping to find a D17 in need. So far haven’t run across one. 

Brad 

On 9/8/16, 7:47 AM, "at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of David Steinich" <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of dsteinich at gmail.com> wrote: 

My mistake, they must have stamped the D10/12 engine numbers like the CA 
tractors - on the left rear flange of the engine. 
Could it be you've only seen replacement blocks or those with numbers 
hidden under paint? 
I've heard of transplanting into a D17 from Gleaners (model E maybe), that 
would be the bigger 226 engine (same family as the WC/WD/WD45/D17/170). You 
do need to put the tractor governor on it as part of the switch. 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:58 AM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> 
wrote: 

> David there is a casting number located as you mentioned but 
> I've never seen any actual serial numbers on an AC block. In addition 
> to what you said about the 160 engine, wasn't that 160 or something 
> similar available in some of the Gleaner combines? Seems to me there 
> was a gas powered combine engine that was an easy transplant into 
> the D series tractors. 
> 
> Charlie 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: David Steinich 
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 6:24 PM 
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
> Subject: Re: [AT] D10/D12 
> 
> Externally that block is the same as the 160ci in the D15 series two, 
> making a swap possible. Internally they are different, causing the 160 
> rebuild to be a lot more expensive. I think there should be serial numbers 
> on the blocks (behind or to the rear of the carb) and casting numbers that 
> could help identify the motor's origin. 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016, 3:21 PM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> > Ray, I've seen that repair done before. I don't obviously know how 
> > yours 
> > was done 
> > but the surface I'm talking about is the upward sloping portion of the 
> > torque tube 
> > flange looking from the centerline of the torque tube up. It's below the 
> > fuel shut off 
> > and sediment bowl. Anyway if you can't see it you can't. I'll study on 
> > it 
> > and see if there 
> > is another way to tell. I know that the rear wheel spacing on the D-12 
> is 
> > two inches wider 
> > in the narrowest position than the D-10. The early D-10/12 had a 138 Cu 
> > inch engine. The 
> > later ones were an identical block with 149 CI displacement after a 
> > certain 
> > serial number which 
> > we can't see. There are some rebuild kits that punch it up to 153 CI if 
> > I'm 
> > remembering right. 
> > 
> > Charlie 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Ray Trimble 
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 2:40 PM 
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com 
> > Subject: [AT] D10/D12 
> > 
> > Charlie, in this tractors past history the bottom of the torque tube 
> > had 
> > a failure, its gone. Acradle was built, the wishbone member that goes to 
> > the 
> > front end is attached to this cradle at the rear.This cradle attaches to 
> > the 
> > sides of the tube covering the identifation. This looks heavy so I'am not 
> > going to remove it. 
> > One thing interesting, I was told this tractor has a larger 
> > displacement 
> > engine than most d1-/d12s. 
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