[AT] OT LED question

[charlie hill]

I recently found out that I can buy incandescent 100 W bulbs off the shelf 
at
the convenience store 1 mile from my house!  NO these aren't new old stock 
and
the store owner didn't stock up before the ban.  They come in every week, 
replenished
by the service merchandizer and on sale in plain view, not hidden in the 
back room or
under the counter.  The only thing is .... they are MADE IN CHINA.... 
Thousands of American
jobs lost but the bulbs that were supposedly causing the seas to rise are 
still available.
SO, I think we now know the REAL reason why they were outlawed.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dick Day
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 4:08 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT LED question

To add to what Spencer said, this, even grumpier, old man knows that the
failure rate of most LED's is pretty dismal.  Actually, I believe it's the
drivers that fail.

I like not using as much electricity and I like the almost instant-on in
super cold temps but that all comes at a price.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:

> You folks know me:   I try really hard to not be that grumpy old man that
> says everything new is terrible.  In fact I don't even have to try all 
> that
> hard.  Adapting comes naturally.
>
> However I am that grumpy old man when it comes to light bulbs tho....   I
> hate CFLs and LEDs.   None of them last like they claim and the light
> quality stinks.
>
> You have my sympathy.
>
> Tractor/ATIS reference:
>
> General purpose LED bulbs are  not dimmable without side effects,  for
> enclosed housings or rough service.   In fact one LED in a dimmable 
> circuit
> would make my UPS (that keeps ATIS up during power outages) transformer
> hum. It was the weirdest thing.   Slide the dimmer down halfway and the 
> UPS
> would make a racket.   All the way up and it would be fine.   Completely
> different circuits too.   The bulb itself would dim fine without effect 
> but
> my UPS hated it.
>
> Spencer Yost
>
> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 9:50 AM, <rlgoss at twc.com> <rlgoss at twc.com> wrote:
> >
> > I had that happen on an LED desk lamp.  It turned out that one portion
> of the circuitry went open-circuit and the lamp was working at about half.
> The store gave me a replacement for it and everything has been fine since
> then.
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ---- Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
> >> Based on the discussion here a little over a year ago, I put some LED
> >> lights here and there.  One being in the kitchen.  Seemed good. 
> >> However,
> >> lately I have been having trouble seeing well in the kitchen.  Just
> >> seemed like there was not enough light.  I just screwed the CREE LED 
> >> out
> >> and installed one of my old 100W incandescent bulbs.  Holy Smokes!!!! 
> >> I
> >> can see again.  I was getting worried about my eyes.  Why has this
> >> expensive LED bulb dimmed down??  I think the govmnt stuck it to us
> >> again like the digital television signal.
> >>
> >> Ron
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