[AT] Field bindweed or morning glory

Sat May 28 18:30:52 PDT 2016

Been loosely following this thread. There are two formulations of 
2-4-D---amine and ester I believe. I have also bought some 2-4-D that 
had something else mixed with it I believe.

I wonder if Banvel is listed for this weed? We used to spray that on 
wheat, but I believe it works on other crops. Osprey and Harmony are 
other popular wheat chemicals that may work.

As far as I know paraquat is still made, last I bought was a chineese 
knockoff, the name brand I am familiar with is Gramaxone. If I am not 
mistaken this stuff doesn't play well with aluminum--it destroyed my 
Tee-valve (boom selector/pressure regulator.

Regarding Glyphosphate, I'm using Roundup ultra-max or something like 
that. It's stronger than the generic stuff, I swear I also get better 
results. I still add surfactant.

You local chemical dealer should be able to make a reccomendation. Some 
of the products are labeled restricted use--must have a license to 
purchase/use them. With any chemical, read the label first!!!

John Hall

On 5/28/2016 3:37 PM, Mike M wrote:
> I have a lot of areas that I need to keep clear, I'm going to start
> mixing Diquat with my Glyphosate, because the Diquat burns down really
> fast.  I'm going to start with a really low dose (1 tsp per gallon) and
> see how that goes. I don't want to kill the leaves before the Glyphosate
> has had a chance to get to the roots, but it should show me areas I've
> missed. That's the plan anyway.
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 5/28/2016 2:40 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> I think it is still legal Mike.  It will kill most anything!
>> Yeah I think Diquat is a close cousin.
>> The problem is not finding something to kill the grass,
>> it's finding something you can afford that is labeled for
>> use on the particular crop so you don't get in big trouble for
>> using it off label.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike M
>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:49 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Field bindweed or morning glory
>>
>> Don't know about Paraquat, Charlie, I know it's nasty stuff. I recently
>> was able to buy Diquat however which I believe is a close cousin to
>> Paraquat.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/2016 1:20 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Is Paraquat still legal?
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil Bearden
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:39 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Field bindweed or morning glory
>>>
>>> the bindweed here is very resistant to most of the usual chemicals.  I
>>> have a friend who has a house where I think this may have come from.  He
>>> has it growing up in the window moldings and inside the house.  He has
>>> used roundup, 2,4,D, and many others to try to kill it.  The builder did
>>> not clear off much before building and the farmer who had it gave up
>>> trying to raise wheat and sold it to a developer.  I baled some of his 5
>>> acres the first year he moved it, and that is where I think it came
>>> from.  We never had it before in the last 35 years.
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/26/2016 8:21 PM, Al Jones wrote:
>>>> Most any formulation of 2,4-D will get morning glory.
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:30 PM, charlie hill
>>>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In the days before herbicides we used to plow the problem grass
>>>>> areas and try to turn the roots up to the air right before a hard
>>>>> freeze.
>>>>> It helped but didn't solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to get your fields clean and weed free, lease the place to a
>>>>> cotton farmer for about 3 years.
>>>>> They spray more than any farm operation I know of.
>>>>> our farm had all sorts of grasses and even some noxious weeds that we'd
>>>>> been fighting for about 40 years.   A few years in cotton and the place
>>>>> was
>>>>> as clean as high grade potting soil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve W.
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:58 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Field bindweed or morning glory
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil Bearden wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone have a magic bullet for field bindweed or Morning Glory?  I
>>>>>> baled
>>>>>> some hay back during the drought a few years ago and brought the
>>>>>> blasted
>>>>>> stuff into my fields.   I am trying to get the most pasture off my
>>>>>> wheat
>>>>>> after I cut it for hay and the bindweed just keeps growing.  Between
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bindweed and the Musk Thistles, I can't afford to keep spraying.  The
>>>>>> wet cool spring has given the weeds a real boost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>>>
>>>>> There is a mite that you could try. Other than that spray is about the
>>>>> only solution. Unless you can get a belly scraper in there and strip to
>>>>> below the roots, then burn it out of the dirt. It will grow back from
>>>>> any fragments left, seeds, rhizomes, stems, roots. It digs in like a
>>>>> politician...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steve W.
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